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Date:      Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:15:24 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Gary Kline <kline@tera.com>
Cc:        ajohns@TurnAround.com.au, mestery@visi.com, dann@greycat.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Recommended laptops for FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <19990628111524.K15144@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com>; from Gary Kline on Sun, Jun 27, 1999 at 06:30:03PM -0700
References:  <19990628104403.G15144@freebie.lemis.com> <199906280130.SAA29932@athena.tera.com>

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On Sunday, 27 June 1999 at 18:30:03 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> According to Greg Lehey:
>> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
>>
>> On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 10:35:49 +1000, Andrew Johns wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote:
>>>>
>> All current Dell laptops use the NeoMagic chipset, which used to be a
>> problem because NeoMagic didn't release programming documentation.
>> They've done so now, however, and the latest version of XFree86
>> includes a driver which works pretty well on my Latitude CPi.  I'm
>> told that the Inspiron series works pretty well with FreeBSD, too.
>
> 	A friend who got a free Dell Latitude for work was wondering;
> 	this info should interest him.
>
> 	The PAO list is interesting--especially since my 3.2 CD's
> 	just arrived--but the PAO information seems dated..  I've
> 	seen a `UMAX' l'top that would be just small enough (12.1")
> 	to be worth buying at around $1000US.  But I've seen
> 	nothing about this or other off-brand laptops.

There are efforts under way to incorporate the PAO code into the
mainstream.  Previously, PAO worked on laptops, but not necessarily on
larger machines.  I'm running 3.2-RELEASE on my Latitude at the
moment.  I needed to change /etc/pccard.conf to reflect the cards I
put in (a 3Com 3C589C and a no-name modem with a Cirrus Logic
chipset).

> 	Is there any way of telling whether any generic laptops would
> 	work with FBSD?

There's a web page at http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/PAO/LTS.txt,
and another at http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html.  Apart
from that, it's " suck it and see", I'm afraid.

Greg
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