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Date:      Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:25:32 -0700 (MST)
From:      David G Andersen <danderse@cs.utah.edu>
To:        scott@computeralt.com (Scott I. Remick)
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Firewall questions
Message-ID:  <199911041525.IAA06533@faith.cs.utah.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991104094637.00cdd9f0@mail.computeralt.com> from "Scott I. Remick" at Nov 4, 99 10:11:15 am

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Lo and behold, Scott I. Remick once said:
> 
> 1) I've purchased the O'Reilly book "Building Internet Firewalls", and have 
> printed out chapters 6.4 and 16 from the handbook.  However, is there any 
> other guide that describes in better detail how to do what I am doing? 
> (read on for details)

   It depends what you want to accomplish with your firewall.

> 
> 2) Is sendmail necessary on a firewall?  I've removed all other 
> non-essential daemons already (r*, telnetd, ftpd, even inetd).  The only 
> service running right now is ssh, which is the only way I communicate with 
> this system.  I've never telnetted to it.

   See above:  It depend what...

> 3) What the heck would be using port 111?  Strobe shows it as being alive 
> and listening.

   portmapper.  See /etc/rc.conf

> 4) How do I properly set up routes for a dual-homed firewall where both 
> sides are within the same class C?  This is the first time I've ever had to 
> play with routing and gateways.

  Subnet them into /25's, or use RFC1918 addresses on the inside.

> 5) Where's the proper place to put your ipfw rules so they get reloaded on 
> every boot? rc.local?

   /etc/{name} and then set your firewall name in /etc/rc.conf

> 6) Should www/ftp/dns/etc servers be inside the firewall, or in the DMZ?

  Depends what you need to do with 'em.  Obviously, your internal hosts
need DNS service;  I'd stick a DNS server inside.  As for external access
to your DNS server, that's your call (or an economic decision. :-)

   WWW and FTP are traditionally put in the DMZ, but again.

> So I feel like I'm making good progress.  I'm getting a good understanding 
> of ipfw rules.  But the routes thing has got me a bit stumped.  I'm not 
> clear on what routing is being done by routed, what routing is being done 
> (if any) by ipfw (because rc.firewall has places for you to put in both 
> sides of your firewall), and what the difference in enabling routing and 
> enabling gateway is.

  If you've only got a few networks, don't use routed, use static routes.

  -Dave

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