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Date:      Thu, 3 Jan 2019 14:13:49 +0100
From:      Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
To:        Marek Zarychta <zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 12 and Nocona
Message-ID:  <B9685323-407C-4FEC-AA3B-CCB4EAC96ECF@lassitu.de>
In-Reply-To: <fb0361c2-28e1-341f-c11f-75488f5ad95c@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>
References:  <fb0361c2-28e1-341f-c11f-75488f5ad95c@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl>

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> I have under supervision a few old servers running 11.2-STABLE. The
> hardware is almost for retirement, but still in working condition. =
It's
> all old Nocona NetBurst microarchitecture. I have recently tried do
> upgrade OS two of them to 12.0-STABLE, but failed. When I use old
> bootloader the boot freezes on blue highlighted "Booting" stage, when =
I
> tried to use 12 loader, it freezes earlier, on loading kernel modules.
> The kernel was compiled from fresh sources for CPUTYPE?=3Dnocona.
> 11.2-STABLE is fine with this optimization and the same kernel boots
> fine on newer hardware.
>=20
> It is fair, that 11 EOL is expected September 30, 2021 and these =
servers
> will likely be retired before this date, but some questions arise:
>=20
> Is such old hardware still supported? Is it possible (how to) debug =
the
> booting process?

The first step is to try with known-good bits: can you boot these =
machines off the 12.0 ISO or memstick images? Can you load your kernel =
and modules with the loader from the ISO/memstick? Does GENERIC built =
without any flags work?

If any of these don=E2=80=99t work, try to be as specific as possible =
when reporting problems. For example, the exact make of mainboard (kenv =
output) and the BIOS version, and any relevant BIOS settings are likely =
important for problems regarding the loader. If the kernel and modules =
load, you can try a verbose boot to see better how far the kernel gets.

I=E2=80=99d be really surprised if the CPUs themselves would cause =
trouble.


Stefan

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