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Date:      Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:58:51 +0300
From:      Stefan Lambrev <stefan.lambrev@moneybookers.com>
To:        Mikhail T. <mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8.x grudges
Message-ID:  <B81A4CCB-ED22-4017-9469-ECA1430560E0@moneybookers.com>
In-Reply-To: <4C509617.6080709@aldan.algebra.com>
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Hi,

On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Mikhail T. wrote:

> 09.07.2010 05:49, Peter Jeremy ???????(??):
>> I doubt I'm personally in a position to debug this and don't =
personally
>> use splash screens.  Can you reproduce it using an image that you can
>> re-distribute?
>>  =20
> Ok, the splash-screen problem went away after I put back the original =
video-card. The one I tried with (a high-end, but old) worked fine in =
text mode, but, apparently, had issues in the graphical mode... =
Retracted...
>>>>>    3. Likewise, having "device ugen" breaks config(8) -- another
>>>>>       undocumented incompatibility.
>>>>>        =20
>>> It was a valid device for FreeBSD-7. The UPDATING-file enumerates a
>>> number of things, that need to be changed, when updating to 8, but =
the
>>> removal of "ugen" is not mentioned there.
>>>    =20
>> Well, the definitive list is sys/conf/NOTES and sys/$(uname =
-m)/conf/NOTES
>>  =20
> The "NOTES" files are code, not documentation... If the "UPDATING" =
file did not exist, I'd be looking elsewhere for the changes. But it =
does exist and so should be complete (perhaps, it should be =
auto-generated based on the commit-history of the NOTES and GENERIC =
kernel-configs?)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html :
 For an exhaustive list of architecture dependent options and devices, =
see the NOTES file in the same directory as the GENERIC file. For =
architecture independent options, see /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES.

I duno if this is documentation or not .. the handbook states that this =
is a list :)

Also I'm pretty sure there was an entry for the USB changes in UPDATING:

20090223:
        The new USB2 stack has now been permanently moved in and all =
kernel and
        module names reverted to their previous values (eg, usb, ehci, =
ohci,
        ums, ...).  The old usb stack can be compiled in by prefixing =
the name
        with the letter 'o', the old usb modules have been removed.
        Updating entry 20090216 for xorg and 20090215 for libmap may =
still
        apply.


There was a huge change for the GENERIC at this date (+29 -88 lines) so =
it's doesn't sound correct to
document verbosely all of them in UPDATING.

-cut-=20

--
Best Wishes,
Stefan Lambrev
ICQ# 24134177








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