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Date:      Wed, 22 Jul 2026 01:43:56 +0200
From:      vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl>
To:        Kyle Evans <kevans@FreeBSD.org>, Christos Margiolis <christos@freebsd.org>, Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound
Message-ID:  <yszdnwcecyllcedppcez@ehum>
In-Reply-To: <01c7d370-cf05-4aef-8de8-df6888c6a62f@FreeBSD.org>
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> Hi,
> 
> Top posting: please knock off the abuse.
> That is not welcome in this community.
> If you have technical complaints, great,
> but you're crossing multiple lines here.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kyle Evans

TOP POSTING means quoting ENTIRE earlier message 'intact' and adding 'some' content above it - sometimes quoting some parts of it - sometimes just adding a thought or a comment above it - I assume this is the definition - this is NOT what I did.

I just gathered quotes from multiple emails of one author in the same topic/area and replied to them - w/o quoting them entirely below - so I DID NOT did a TOP POSTING.

Another thing that is not welcome in the FreeBSD community is breaking stuff that used to work for YEARS w/o a real reason and just hoping that next commits could fix the damage that already has been done.

The sound/audio changes are welcome and often needed - but CURRENT is the place where all of these commits should happen and 'upgraded' to STABLE branch ONLY after making sure that they do not break existing stuff (POLA) and adding anything more then is actually available right now.

Regards,
vermaden


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