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Date:      Wed, 11 Sep 1996 12:27:04 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us, perry@alpha.jpunix.com
Subject:   Re: pty's and slattach
Message-ID:  <199609110257.MAA11723@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.960910211424.dkelly@hiwaay.net> from "David Kelly" at Sep 10, 96 08:30:38 pm

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David Kelly stands accused of saying:
> 
> Studying /usr/src/sys/kern/tty_pty.c I find no mention of TIOCSCTTY. No
> wonder its not permitted. Studying /usr1/src/sbin/slattach/slattach.c we
> find:

It's probably not handled there 8)  However it must be possible to make
a pty your controlling terminal.  You might want to look at things like
'xdm' and 'screen' to see how they do it (if they do...).

>         /* acquire the serial line as a controling terminal. */
>         if (ioctl(fd, TIOCSCTTY, 0) < 0) {
>                 syslog(LOG_ERR,"ioctl(TIOCSCTTY): %m");
>                 exit_handler(1);
>         }
> 
> I don't know how to run gdb thru a daemon(0,0), but I'm quite sure this is
> where the error message originates and slattach quits. A bandaid approach
> would be to bypass the above in slattach. But I don't know enough about
> *why* the author of slattach.c wants to be a controlling terminal to be
> confident about skipping the ioctl().

You do this so that when the line drops (wrt. a tty) you get a HUP, so that
you don't have to poll line status in a device-specific fashion.

> Obviously lots of stuff works very well thru pty's. The most correct fix
> would be to take the amateur radio code and teach it to connect to the tun
> device directly. Or the sl devices. But for now I'd like to get this other
> stuff working thru pty.

'tun' devices are deliriously easy to talk to.  If you think you can work
well with them, then do it!

> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm)

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