Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:03:38 +0200 From: "Hartmann, O." <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina@rktmb.org> Cc: freebsd Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html Message-ID: <4E5CFBCA.9080108@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4E5CF417.5080503@rktmb.org> References: <4E5941D6.9090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5BEF65.2010502@gmail.com> <4E5CAD9E.6050903@rktmb.org> <4E5CB49F.50806@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CBC14.4080908@rktmb.org> <4E5CF1ED.2030504@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5CF417.5080503@rktmb.org>
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On 08/30/11 16:30, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > On 08/30/2011 05:21 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 08/30/11 12:31, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >>> On 08/30/2011 12:59 PM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> But I also express my opinion that updating such a document should be >>> done by a third party. >> I slightly disagree with that. > > No problem > >> Who else than the developer/core team >> members know better about what's >> in and what's not in the FreeBSD box? > > So, for a features listing, it's OK. I really agree on turning it into > a feature list. > > For a _comparison_, I think it's up to somewhere else: > To really compare, it's mandatory to really now the multiple compared > items. Who cares about the latest MS Windows internals (deep > networking capability, filesystem tricks, kernel scheduler specs,...) > in here? Sorry, I forgot about that, you're completely right! Most engineers are very keen on their own products and they know each feature by the forename, so to speak. But this delegates us into the complicated situation, that there should exist someone which is deep inside all of the compared operating systems. And I still doubt that we will find such a person, since if this would exist noadays and such a person is motivated to do a comparison, it would have been done and happened already! If a comparison page is driven by the developer themselves and open to be seen by everyone, even the "other party" or people fund of "the other ones", they could sign some requests in the mailing lists. But I guess it would be hard to find a common aggreement. Whenever a benchmark has been started at PHORONIX, so far as I know, and I watch them very carefully, and FreeBSD's bad performance related to threaded I/O come to discussion, which is, in my naive opinion, a very essential part of the OS and its performnce (and compared to Linux FreeBSD performs really bad!), a discussion got loose with the outcome, that many energy has been emitted for excusions, critics on the way the benchmark has been performed and what OS version has been taken into the test blablabla ... and effectively everything is stuck as before. It is like a street scene in Italy or Turkey, someone shouts in the narrow street, something bad happens, the people open their windows, starting shouting crisscross each other, making a lot of noise and then, suddenly, all windows slap close and a devine silnce enters the whole scene and still the bad thing is unsolved (say, ad corps in the street bleeding ...) ... > > I migh be wrong, but IMHO "core devs" and "power users" wont spend > time to deeply investigate on the other systems. > > Again, just an opinion. >
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