Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 12:09:10 +1000 From: David Nugent <davidn@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> To: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Message-ID: <199708040209.MAA11849@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 18:03:49 %2B0930." <199708030833.SAA13424@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
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>From msmith@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au Sun Aug 3 18:33:54 1997 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by unique.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24354 for <davidn@unique.usn.blaze.net.au>; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:33:52 +1000 (EST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA13424; Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:03:49 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-Id: <199708030833.SAA13424@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued In-Reply-To: <199708030052.KAA17855@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> from David Nugent at "Aug 3, 97 10:52:41 am" To: davidn@usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:03:49 +0930 (CST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >Now the obvious "answer" is to somehow integrate ports with things >> >that depend on it in /usr/src >> >> No, wrong answer, imho. This makes things way too complex. > >You misunderstand Jordan's point. May I humbly suggest that you find >an Irix weenie that knows their way around the system, and ask them to >explain the inner workings of 'inst'. Ok, fair enough. I had assumed that this integration would involve make dependancies. I'm not entirely sure how an external tool could handle it, but I've enough exposure to know that any solution here would involve considerably more "splitting" of the system into more components. In any case, I *still* think this is largely irrelevent to the current discussion. In fact, this argument is somewhat of a straw man compared with the core issues involved, regardless of how desirable it is as an aim in itself. Incidently, have you seen the Debian Linux installation and package tools? While I really hate the ui, the concepts involved are very good. It's "core" system is roughly 20mb, which of course excludes many of the things we deliver on a standard FreeBSD system. I'm not saying that this is the way to go, but certainly it may be worth looking at from a comparative basis. BTW, I wasn't too impressed by RedHat's approach to the problem, in spite of that being superior in handling the pre-packaged side of thing compared with our packaging system. Regards, David David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/
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