Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:13:24 -0700 From: Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> To: Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Cc: Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> Subject: Re: RFC: Remove pty(4) Message-ID: <53F4E544.9070606@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CACYV=-E1BA3rHP5s%2BCs-X-J5CNAaSNxDgqPkgnJu3uUXCyaUGA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CACYV=-E1BA3rHP5s%2BCs-X-J5CNAaSNxDgqPkgnJu3uUXCyaUGA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 8/20/14, 11:00 AM, Davide Italiano wrote: > One of my personal goals for 11 is to get rid of cloning mechanism > entirely, and pty(4) is one of the few in-kernel drivers still relying > on such mechanism. > It's not possible, at least to my understanding, converting pty(4) to > cdevpriv(9) as happened with other drivers. This is mainly because we > always need a pair of devices (/dev/ptyXX and /dev/ttyXX) and > userspace loops over ptyXX and after it successfully opens it tries to > open the other one with the same suffix. So, having a single device is > not really enough. > My option, instead, is that of removing pty(4), which is nothing more > than a compatibility driver, and move pmtx(4) code somewhere else. > The main drawback of the removal of this is that it makes impossible > to run FreeBSD <= 7 jails and SSH into them. I personally don't > consider this a huge issue, in light of the fact that FreeBSD-7 has > been EOL for a long time, but I would like to hear other people > comments. > > The code review for the proposed change can be found here: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D659 > > If I won't get any objection I'll commit this in one week time, i.e. > August 27th. I agree with Alfred. breaking old jails is a no no. many people still use them. Me included. I sometimes run jails back to 1.1, not everything works, but enough does to build 1.1 binaries for certain devices.
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