Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 23:12:55 +0100 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder <cmt@burggraben.net> To: George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com> Cc: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>, FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> Subject: Re: Portmaster failing Message-ID: <20200101221255.GB37433@elch.exwg.net> In-Reply-To: <2726af4c-e160-01cd-b3ae-5bd02f984787@m5p.com> References: <8DDB987C-5276-4F35-BBD1-84043ED26E03@kreme.com> <E974C7FA-68A2-4B3F-B230-0DDF46AEEE4C@lastsummer.de> <D4A3ED2A-A208-44DD-876B-5CF3F8EE3541@kreme.com> <A8202C42-7EE5-4235-874A-D5D8C63E2413@lastsummer.de> <288FEB87-3D88-4696-BF83-6918DAE656E5@kreme.com> <CAP7rwcjS7jgBXO7kNDEQcOxVhkQjixf-i6S8NyMx2DJk96ZL4w@mail.gmail.com> <DFB2B8B8-97DC-4EF3-9F98-338ED971EB01@lastsummer.de> <2726af4c-e160-01cd-b3ae-5bd02f984787@m5p.com>
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## George Mitchell (george+freebsd@m5p.com): > Assuming you can get poudriere to work. Even by today's standards, > a low-cost PC is not going to have the juice to support it. And to > reiterate, the ports framework itself MUST work standalone. The pain you'll experience (eventually) from the breakage resulting from just ol' plain "make install"s is much worse than running poudriere. Most non-trivial software will not build predictably in an unclean environment, and forget about keeping it working when your environment changes (the time I've spent chasing shared library problems... that's time I'll never get back). (Note that I'm not talking about reproducable builds, which is yet another can of worms). If you can't build with poudriere locally, you should look into renting CPU time ("cloud" as they call it these days) or use packages. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space
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