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Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2002 23:15:45 -0800
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <crist.clark@attbi.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Emiel Kollof <coolvibe@hackerheaven.org>
Subject:   Re: kldxref problem
Message-ID:  <20020402231545.J52193@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <3CAAA697.451C3196@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:52:07PM -0800
References:  <20020403061531.B07353808@overcee.wemm.org> <3CAAA697.451C3196@mindspring.com>

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On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:52:07PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Quite the thread from hell... ;^)...

This is nuthin'. But one reason it continues is...

> Peter Wemm wrote:
> > Using buildkernel/installkernel is your biggest mistake.  It is no secret
> > what I think of those two targets.
> 
> I have to agree with this.  They are attempts to idiot-proof
> something that can't be idiot-proofed, because idiots are so
> cunning.  8-).
> 
> The real problem here is that these targets are such monsters
> that they really can't be cross-targets.  The doc stuff is
> particularly nasty, viben that there are maybe 19 sets of
> packages that have to be sucked down and installed to make
> it work, because they aren't part of the default system, and
> they aren't in the source repository.  When the FTP.freebsd.org
> blew up a while back, the only place you could get the tools
> the the proper versions was a combination of a site in England,
> a sunsite site, and two personal directories that lived on a
> machine in Japan.

Where'd this observation come from? buildkernel/installkernel don't
pull packages from anywhere. Building the doc tree has almost nothing
to do with building world or kernel from the source tree.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/    |     cjc@freebsd.org

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