Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:13:54 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> To: Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> Cc: Bill Moran <wmoran@mail.iowna.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: This is not a re-opening of the shell wars.. :) Message-ID: <20010119221354.D964@raggedclown.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101191112480.7762-100000@breakout.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>; from timcm@umich.edu on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:56AM -0500 References: <3A6854F2.56FAD573@mail.iowna.com> <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101191112480.7762-100000@breakout.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>
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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:56AM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Bill Moran wrote: > > > Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > It occurred to me that everyone uses the shell to a greater > > > or lesser extent and since it is such a fundamental tool maybe > > > it is worth saying in the front page blurb on FreeBSD that it supports > > > all popular shells, sh,ksh,csh,tcsh,bash..even zsh. > > > > Wouldn't hurt. > > I think putting it on the main page would. That's precious space! :) > > > > The first thing I did when I loaded BSD was to find "bash", I just > > > assumed it would have it. People with a Linux background will certainly > > > miss it; and maybe not have the investigative zeal to find it. > > > > That's amazing to me. Because: > > 1. Anyone with any UN*X experience whatsoever would know that you can > > install other shells. > > 2. Anyone who wouldn't know they could install other shells wouldn't > > know they were missing anything. > > > > Apparently there are a few people in the middle. I would suppose that > > there's very few. > > I would have to agree here. I can't believe that there are more > than 2-3 people a month that know enough about their favorite shell to > need it, but not to know how to install or run it on whatever system they > are on. Or many that would even know or be able to tell the > differences between the shells, and not know that or be able to find it. > I think there is especially too few people in that situation to > warrant putting something on the main page. Besides it's in the FAQ at: > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html#MINIMAL-SH > Now that could certainly be improved with instructions for how to install > bash (or any other shell in /usr/port/shells). And maybe there could be > a FAQ entry for how to run other shells. > Cliff, since you have expressed an interest, you may just be the > person to write that FAQ entry. :-) I think a FAQ entry would be the > perfect place to explain this. > Mmm.. I asked for that didn't I .. lol. I always wanted my name in lights. We will see. Cliff > Tim > > > I'd be more inclined to assume that he was making up > > an excuse not to like FreeBSD. I've seen people do this a lot, it's just > > an excuse to cover up the fact that they didn't want to like it to begin > > with > > agreed. > > > - somebody probably pushed him into trying it when he didn't want > > to, and he used it just long enough to find an excuse to report back to > > the pusher. > > If I'm right, the solution is to not push people into things they don't > > want to try. If I'm wrong, then just ignore my babbling. > > > > just my $.02 > > > > -Bill > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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