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Date:      Mon, 18 Apr 2022 13:19:19 -0700
From:      Gordon Tetlow <gordon@tetlows.org>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>, postmaster@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lack of notification of security notices
Message-ID:  <D0D174DB-B479-478C-8C48-6B862A0DADCB@tetlows.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1tcGowuUPG0TGBvLuVZzm_inRt77yp7efpvU3JWHk2Dcg@mail.gmail.com>
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=46rom the secteam point of view, we haven't changed anything in the way =
we send messages to the mailing lists. I have double checked and all SAs =
are sent to the three addresses listed. I suspect this is likely fallout =
of the mailing list change over.

I can say for my part, I have gotten a copy of the messages from both =
the freebsd-announce and freebsd-security mailing lists for the SAs I =
have sent out (I'm not subscribed to the freebsd-security-notifications =
list). I just confirmed the headers for the 2 copies of SA-22:08.zlib =
that I received that it is routing through the lists.=20

It does appear as though the messages are not properly archiving into =
the mailing list archives. Adding postmaster to the thread for them to =
dig into why that might be.

Gordon
Hat: security-officer

> On Apr 18, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> As per the FreeBSD Security Information web page =
<https://www.freebsd.org/security/>, security notifications are sent to:
> FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org =
<mailto:FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org>
> FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.org <mailto:FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.org>
> FreeBSD-announce@FreeBSD.org <mailto:FreeBSD-announce@FreeBSD.org>
> This policy has lately been ignored. No postings show up in the =
archives of FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org =
<mailto:FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org> since January. =
Likewise for freebsd-announce. The only list showing the April 6 =
announcements is this one, freebsd-security@freebad.org =
<mailto:freebsd-security@freebad.org>.
>=20
> In the past, Security Announcements and Errata Notes have also been =
copied to the stable and current lists as appropriate, although this is =
not mentioned.  This delayed the update of my systems by several days. =
Fortunately, only one of these vulnerabilities was relevant to my =
systems.
>=20
> Even though the announcements are almost 2 weeks old, it is still =
likely that some people are unaware of them, so I would strongly urge =
that they be posted to, at least, FreeBSD-Announce and  FreeBSD-Stable =
lists.
>=20
> In passing, I will note  that the same issue appears to be occurring =
with posts of Errata Notices.
> --=20
> Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com <mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com>
> PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">=46ro=
m the secteam point of view, we haven't changed anything in the way we =
send messages to the mailing lists. I have double checked and all SAs =
are sent to the three addresses listed. I suspect this is likely fallout =
of the mailing list change over.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I can say for my part, I have gotten a copy of the messages =
from both the freebsd-announce and freebsd-security mailing lists for =
the SAs I have sent out (I'm not subscribed to the =
freebsd-security-notifications list). I just confirmed the headers for =
the 2 copies of SA-22:08.zlib that I received that it is routing through =
the lists.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">It does appear as though the messages are not properly =
archiving into the mailing list archives. Adding postmaster to the =
thread for them to dig into why that might be.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Gordon</div><div class=3D"">Hat: =
security-officer</div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Apr 18, 2022, at 12:57 PM, =
Kevin Oberman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">rkoberman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">As per the <a =
href=3D"https://www.freebsd.org/security/" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">FreeBSD Security Information web page</a>, security =
notifications are sent to:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div class=3D"">
<ul class=3D""><li class=3D""><p class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org</a></p>
</li><li class=3D""><p class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.org</a></p>
</li><li class=3D""><p class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:FreeBSD-announce@FreeBSD.org" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">FreeBSD-announce@FreeBSD.org</a></p>
</li></ul>
</div></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default">This policy has lately been ignored. No postings =
show up in the archives of <a =
href=3D"mailto:FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">FreeBSD-security-notifications@FreeBSD.org</a> since January. =
Likewise for freebsd-announce. The only list showing the April 6 =
announcements is this one, <a href=3D"mailto:freebsd-security@freebad.org"=
 target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">freebsd-security@freebad.org</a>.</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default"><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default">In
 the past, Security Announcements and Errata Notes have also been copied
 to the stable and current lists as appropriate, although this is not =
mentioned.&nbsp; This=20
delayed the update of my systems by several days. Fortunately, only one=20=

of these vulnerabilities was relevant to my systems.<br =
class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default"><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default">Even
 though the announcements are almost 2 weeks old, it is still likely=20
that some people are unaware of them, so I would strongly urge that
 they be posted to, at least, FreeBSD-Announce and&nbsp; FreeBSD-Stable=20=

lists.</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default"><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" =
class=3D"gmail_default">In passing, I will note&nbsp; that the same =
issue appears to be occurring with posts of Errata Notices.<font =
color=3D"#888888" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font></div><font =
color=3D"#888888" class=3D""></font></div>-- <br class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Kevin Oberman, =
Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer<br class=3D"">E-mail: =
<a href=3D"mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">rkoberman@gmail.com</a><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">PGP=
 Fingerprint: =
D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683</div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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