Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:56:04 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se> To: Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org>, danfe@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: releng/11.4 branch, 11.4-BETA1 builds and 11.4-RELEASE schedule reminder Message-ID: <73c70505-edc4-b164-fb31-8831338f040c@daemonic.se> In-Reply-To: <202005111941.04BJfvSf021382@sdf.org> References: <20200508001129.GZ9584@FreeBSD.org> <20200511073405.GA47112@FreeBSD.org> <20200511133440.GF29030@FreeBSD.org> <20200511143350.GA72941@FreeBSD.org> <202005111941.04BJfvSf021382@sdf.org>
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On 2020-05-11 21:41, Scott Bennett wrote: > Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 01:34:40PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: >>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:34:05AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>>> ... >>>> I recall Scott Bennett (CC'ed) had mentioned* on -x11 list that there >>>> were some "kernel memory management bugs that people began complaining >>>> about on the mailing lists within the first few days. Now the project >>>> is planning 11.4 without ever having fixed the bugs." > > Yes, I did. The bugs first caused problems and were noticed right > away after 11.2 was released. >>>> >>>> Just wondering if re@ is aware of that and has a course of action. >>> >>> This is the first I am personally becoming aware of this. Is there >>> a PR? >> >> I'm not aware of the one, perhaps Scott could provide more details? > > Yes, I can. Do you want them on this list? Or somewhere else? > When I looked for a PR, I couldn't find one either. I had assumed that > multiple PRs had been filed for the various problems back when 11.2 came > out, but apparently that wasn't done. My system is currently running > without xorg due to a GPU crash in gpu-firmware-kmod, combined with an > inappropriate response by drm-fbsd11.2-kmod (/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko > does a BIOS reset in an attempt to do a hard reboot), so I doubt that I > can file a PR. Another poster offered to file PRs for me in the interim, > and I sent him a description of the x11 problems, but I didn't hear back > from him. I was waiting to send descriptions of the memory management > problems until the first two x11 PRs had been filed. >> >>> It seems the correct team (graphics) is already somewhat in the loop. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >> I actually doubt both of these assessments are true. The fact that I've >> seen it mentioned on the -x11@ list does not lead to them, IMHO. >> > That is correct. They afflict systems running FreeBSD 11.2 to the > present of 11. I am now running stable/11 at > > FreeBSD hellas 11.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 11.4-PRERELEASE #24 r360432: Tue Apr 28 18:48:15 CDT 2020 bennett@hellas:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/hellas amd64 > > and the problems are still present. Everything in 11 from 11.2 on is > unsuitable for use on a production system because it has to be rebooted > frequently in order to keep it usable. > Are the graphics team aware of what, exactly? Regards -- Niclas
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