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Date:      Mon, 11 May 2020 21:56:04 +0200
From:      Niclas Zeising <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>
To:        Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org>, danfe@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: releng/11.4 branch, 11.4-BETA1 builds and 11.4-RELEASE schedule reminder
Message-ID:  <73c70505-edc4-b164-fb31-8831338f040c@daemonic.se>
In-Reply-To: <202005111941.04BJfvSf021382@sdf.org>
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On 2020-05-11 21:41, Scott Bennett wrote:
> Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 01:34:40PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:34:05AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> I recall Scott Bennett (CC'ed) had mentioned* on -x11 list that there
>>>> were some "kernel memory management bugs that people began complaining
>>>> about on the mailing lists within the first few days.  Now the project
>>>> is planning 11.4 without ever having fixed the bugs."
> 
>       Yes, I did.  The bugs first caused problems and were noticed right
> away after 11.2 was released.
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering if re@ is aware of that and has a course of action.
>>>
>>> This is the first I am personally becoming aware of this.  Is there
>>> a PR?
>>
>> I'm not aware of the one, perhaps Scott could provide more details?
> 
>       Yes, I can.  Do you want them on this list?  Or somewhere else?
> When I looked for a PR, I couldn't find one either.  I had assumed that
> multiple PRs had been filed for the various problems back when 11.2 came
> out, but apparently that wasn't done.  My system is currently running
> without xorg due to a GPU crash in gpu-firmware-kmod, combined with an
> inappropriate response by drm-fbsd11.2-kmod (/boot/modules/radeonkms.ko
> does a BIOS reset in an attempt to do a hard reboot), so I doubt that I
> can file a PR.  Another poster offered to file PRs for me in the interim,
> and I sent him a description of the x11 problems, but I didn't hear back
> from him.  I was waiting to send descriptions of the memory management
> problems until the first two x11 PRs had been filed.
>>
>>> It seems the correct team (graphics) is already somewhat in the loop.
>>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^                                ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> I actually doubt both of these assessments are true.  The fact that I've
>> seen it mentioned on the -x11@ list does not lead to them, IMHO.
>>
>       That is correct.  They afflict systems running FreeBSD 11.2 to the
> present of 11.  I am now running stable/11 at
> 
> FreeBSD hellas 11.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 11.4-PRERELEASE #24 r360432: Tue Apr 28 18:48:15 CDT 2020     bennett@hellas:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/hellas  amd64
> 
> and the problems are still present.  Everything in 11 from 11.2 on is
> unsuitable for use on a production system because it has to be rebooted
> frequently in order to keep it usable.
> 

Are the graphics team aware of what, exactly?
Regards
-- 
Niclas



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