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Date:      Tue, 30 May 2023 16:07:42 -0700
From:      Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: "make hierarchy" from main tree breaks c++ headers on older branches with unclear errors if "make install world" is interrupted
Message-ID:  <FDF6450A-7BE8-432D-822B-46B1BC475BB2@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <0DA92266-62F8-439E-9C56-44106A6B0073@FreeBSD.org>
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> On May 28, 2023, at 3:53 AM, Dimitry Andric <dim@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
> On 28 May 2023, at 07:18, Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> I just tried to run =E2=80=9Cmake hierarchy=E2=80=9D from a main tree =
on a 13.2-RELEASE system, and doing so completely broke my headers.
>> It took me about 30 minutes to figure out what happened=E2=80=A6 =
/usr/include/c++/v1/__string was a header, whereas on :main it=E2=80=99s =
a directory?!
>=20
> Yes, upstream libc++ has split up large headers into multiple =
components, in particular __string and __type_traits.
>=20
> Since we had a file named __string, it had to be somehow replaced by a =
directory. This is what the distrib-cleanup target in the top-level =
Makefile does:
>=20
> https://github.com/DimitryAndric/freebsd-src/commit/6b13b4a095e3
>=20
> Afterwards, the replacement directory named __string is created as =
part of the regular mtree commands.
>=20
>=20
> ...
>> I reinstalled the headers by going to lib/libc++ in my releng/13.2 =
tree, building, and installing all of the 13.2-RELEASE headers.
>> This change has been live for almost a year now on :main =E2=80=94 is =
this a known caveat when doing a source-based upgrade from 13.2-RELEASE* =
to 14.0-CURRENT, i.e., that the installworld (if interrupted) could =
break the c++ compiler?
>=20
> I think it should already be quite clear that interrupting =
installworld is risky. If you were just in the middle of replacing libc =
or rtld, and those were half-written, your system will be completely =
hosed. (I am speaking from experience. :) The same goes for any system =
headers or libraries, not only the C++ ones. If you have a =
half-installed tree, it should not be used for anything except =
attempting another installworld.

That=E2=80=99s a fair point, however, given that this follows the =
standard installation workflow=E2=80=A6
1. etcupdate pre-run.
2. install kernel
3. reboot
4. make installworld
5. etcupdate post-run
=E2=80=A6 this could surprise end-users. In particular, the C++ compiler =
will be broken between step 1 and step 4.

It would be good to bring this fact up in UPDATING or RELNOTES as a =
warning because it could result in a broken system that=E2=80=99s =
difficult to recover from.

Cheers,
-Enji

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