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Date:      Sun, 26 Jan 2025 08:47:09 -0800
From:      Mark Peek <mp@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org
Cc:        Dudley Innocent <dudleyi@yahoo.com>, Chris Moerz <freebsd@ny-central.org>
Subject:   Re: [LDWG] Power & Performance Lead?
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On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 7:09=E2=80=AFAM Chris Moerz <freebsd@ny-central.org=
> wrote:

> Hi Dudley,
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Dudley Innocent wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Noticed in the web call that "Performance & Power" is a want/need, but
> there
> > is little interest in leading it.  Not sure why that is (by stander
> effect?),
> > but I do not mind throwing a few hours towards the concept.  Out of my
> depth,
> > so are there any friendly headings on what to start with? None of the
> items in
> > the worksheet are prioritized.
>
> You're certainly welcome to add your name as you see fit! Admittedly, it'=
s
> probably one of the bigger challenges.
>
> >
> > Hoping for input,
>
> Unless anyone has additional insights, here's my two cents: there are
> likely various ways to address this "area or interest".
>
> It may be a good starting point to raise that topic during the next call
> and look into organizing a subgroup of people to develop this forward,
> unless we manage to rally people through the mailing list.
>
> Right now, it's mixing a few things together. It may also be helpful to
> split or focus it a bit more: right now I can identify at least four
> topics (there may be more?):
>
>  * performance, i.e. making use of p- and e-cores
>  * power management, reducing power draw
>  * improving the scheduler to be more responsive for user-centric
>    workloads
>  * suspend/resume improvements - may require clarification (may have
>    a strong dependency to drm-kmod, but I'm not sure about it)
>

Also, there are the issues open in the FreeBSD Foundation repo for further
investigation/work. For example:

https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/issues?q=3Dis%3Aissue%20st=
ate%3Aopen%20label%3APower

Mark

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 7:09=E2=80=AFAM C=
hris Moerz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:freebsd@ny-central.org">freebsd@ny-central=
.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Dudley,<br>
<br>
On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Dudley Innocent wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Greetings,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Noticed in the web call that &quot;Performance &amp; Power&quot; is a =
want/need, but there<br>
&gt; is little interest in leading it.=C2=A0 Not sure why that is (by stand=
er effect?),<br>
&gt; but I do not mind throwing a few hours towards the concept.=C2=A0 Out =
of my depth,<br>
&gt; so are there any friendly headings on what to start with? None of the =
items in<br>
&gt; the worksheet are prioritized.<br>
<br>
You&#39;re certainly welcome to add your name as you see fit! Admittedly, i=
t&#39;s<br>
probably one of the bigger challenges.<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hoping for input,<br>
<br>
Unless anyone has additional insights, here&#39;s my two cents: there are<b=
r>
likely various ways to address this &quot;area or interest&quot;.<br>
<br>
It may be a good starting point to raise that topic during the next call<br=
>
and look into organizing a subgroup of people to develop this forward,<br>
unless we manage to rally people through the mailing list.<br>
<br>
Right now, it&#39;s mixing a few things together. It may also be helpful to=
<br>
split or focus it a bit more: right now I can identify at least four<br>
topics (there may be more?):<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* performance, i.e. making use of p- and e-cores<br>
=C2=A0* power management, reducing power draw<br>
=C2=A0* improving the scheduler to be more responsive for user-centric<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0workloads<br>
=C2=A0* suspend/resume improvements - may require clarification (may have<b=
r>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a strong dependency to drm-kmod, but I&#39;m not sure about it=
)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Also, there are the issues open in th=
e FreeBSD Foundation repo for further investigation/work. For example:</div=
><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-l=
aptop/issues?q=3Dis%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3APower">https://github.=
com/FreeBSDFoundation/proj-laptop/issues?q=3Dis%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20la=
bel%3APower</a></div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div></div></div>

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