Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:17:43 -0700 From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> To: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC build broken Message-ID: <199911031917.MAA10150@mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <199911031857.KAA06668@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199911031844.LAA09963@mt.sri.com> <199911031857.KAA06668@dingo.cdrom.com>
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> > > I think most if not all the ethernet cards I or my customers
> > > have bought over the last year have sported mighty fine netboot
> > > capabilities.
> >
> > FWIW, few of the cards I've bought over the years sport netboot. And,
> > netboot is an impossibility in 'embedded' systems that use things like
> > PCMCIA/CARDBUS, which are becoming common-place for embedded routers and
> > such.
>
> Argh! More FUD! Network booting is not an impossibility in an
> embedded product using PCCARD or CARDBUS.
Ok, please explain how I add a netboot prom to my 3C589 card?
> > Netboot (IMO) is an unacceptable solution to many folks. It seems that
> > 'progress' in this case means removing alot of existing functionality
> > that is used by a number of folks.
> >
> > (CDROM root, BOOTP, etc...)
>
> More FUD! CDROM root devices still work fine.
Then you do a very poor job of writing commit logs.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
msmith 1999/11/01 15:51:01 PST
Modified files:
sys/kern vfs_conf.c
...
Log:
This is a complete rewrite of vfs_conf.c, which changes the way the
root
filesystem is discovered.
....
In addition, support for CDROM root
devices has been removed; it was a nasty hack and didn't work.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Note the last sentence. Does that say that support for CDROM root
devices has been removed? I thought it did.
> The automated search
> stuff was broken, and it's gone because it was in the way. There will
> be a new automated search process that will work properly.
I thought the general idea was that *until* something better came along,
you left things the way they were (ie; not removing them). That's
certainly the message that's been communicated in the past.
> BOOTP in
> the kernel will go _when_there_is_an_acceptable_alternative_.
You've already stated *THERE IS AN ACCEPTABLE ALTERNATIVE*, and it's
PXE. (I can use all caps instead of underscores to make a point too :)
> Yes, progress means losing the crap.
One man's crap is another man's diamond...
> How much more like a shark would you look like if you didn't lose your
> baby teeth?
There ya go, Mike. Let's degenerate this dicussion into name calling
and putdowns, cause that'll make you feel better, won't it?
Nate
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