Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 16:09:20 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> To: pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina) Cc: mark@grondar.za, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, nate@sri.MT.net, phk@freefall.freebsd.org, CVS-committers@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-all@freefall.freebsd.org, cvs-etc@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist Message-ID: <199606230639.QAA15946@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <199606221753.KAA22908@precipice.shockwave.com> from "Paul Traina" at Jun 22, 96 10:53:38 am
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Paul Traina stands accused of saying: > > How about we go through and find all the src perl scripts, figure out > how central to using the system they are, and move them into ports on an > as needed basis? No. > Likewise, let's do the same with tcl before it becomes a problem. Also No. > We need to be thinking about UNBUNDLING, not bundling further. The ports > mechanism is so wonderful, it seems like a damn shame to ignore it in > this circumstance. The ports system works well for applications. It works poorly for subsystems. We can either try to remain a 70's vintage timeshare system with a pile of state-of-the art boltons, or we can try to drag ourselves towards the 90s. We're already carrying a ton of questionable cruft (look in /usr/bin one of these days), so adding a few tools that are actually _useful_ might be setting a precedent, but it's not the one you're harping. If you want to suggest that we look at a more flexible installation system that allows for people that just want the bare bones, as well as those that want a more power combination, that's fine. The whole installation process is up for rework, and input is most decidedly invited. But suggesting that we should pare _down_ is just ludicrous under the current circumstances. > Paul -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[
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