Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:42:42 -0300 From: "Nenhum_de_Nos" <matheus@eternamente.info> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? Message-ID: <9300ce35bed957e1337107d2e5e1f70e.squirrel@eternamente.info> In-Reply-To: <CAOjFWZ5rFQLMBUSzvmWCPDLX_P245x7aDZ-yc6oqXPJej6UrFg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHMRaQf=M0ULOH=KnqzOXvczSM0Lb6apCoQkJegqyU3e8%2BgShA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1204272025080.5846@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20120427203117.GA2055@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <CAOgwaMv_9c_W4fek-kGhQV3B5bKv4RnEFn_6ixn2LS7qDPma6Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ5rFQLMBUSzvmWCPDLX_P245x7aDZ-yc6oqXPJej6UrFg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, April 27, 2012 18:30, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: >> My opinion is that most important obstacle in front of FreeBSD is its >> installation structure : >> >> It is NOT possible to install and use a FreeBSD distribution directly as it >> is . >> >> In Linux distributions , when a distribution is installed , the user , NOT >> root , can use its facilities WITHOUT setting a ( large ) number of parameters >> which it is approximately ZERO . >> >> Contrary to this , when a FreeBSD is installed , an ordinary user can NOT >> use USB , CD/DVD , etc. , and even key board / mouse in X without setting >> MANY parameters in MANY files ( loder.conf , rc.conf , etc. ) . >> >> This point is a very important difficulty for the beginners and a really >> very tiring for experienced users . > > And that's a good thing. :) It forces people to learn. And it > allows people to create the system *they* need, instead of being > forced to use the system "the project" thinks everyone needs. > > We spend a good 2-3 hours customising Ubuntu Server and Debian Linux > installs to make them work they way *we* want them to, with the > software *we* want, and the configurations *we* need. Most of that > time is spent undoing all the "helpful" abstractions that > Ubuntu/Debian devs think make life simpler (and they do, *IF* you use > a GUI to manage things, but CLI users are left in the cold). Just > look at the horrible mess that is GRUB2 configuration on > Ubuntu/Debina, with shell script snippets spread through 4 different > directories. Great for GUI tools to parse and update, but a royal > pain for CLI users. that could not be more true. Ubuntu won't even ask if you want GRUB, it installs it and will replace your bootloader regardless. I hate that. this is one reason to just use ubuntu where it is alone, and won't harm no OS. FreeBSD asks, and will respect my will to choose. matheus -- We will call you Cygnus, The God of balance you shall be A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
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