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Date:      Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:42:42 -0300
From:      "Nenhum_de_Nos" <matheus@eternamente.info>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?
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On Fri, April 27, 2012 18:30, Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
> <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My opinion is that most important obstacle in front of FreeBSD is its
>> installation structure :
>>
>> It is NOT possible to install and use a FreeBSD distribution directly as it
>> is .
>>
>> In Linux distributions , when a distribution is installed , the user , NOT
>> root , can use its facilities WITHOUT setting a ( large ) number of parameters
>> which it is approximately ZERO .
>>
>> Contrary to this , when a FreeBSD is installed , an ordinary user can NOT
>> use USB , CD/DVD , etc. , and even key board / mouse in X without setting
>> MANY parameters in MANY files ( loder.conf , rc.conf , etc. ) .
>>
>> This point is a very important difficulty for the beginners and a really
>> very tiring for experienced users .
>
> And that's a good thing.  :)  It forces people to learn.  And it
> allows people to create the system *they* need, instead of being
> forced to use the system "the project" thinks everyone needs.
>
> We spend a good 2-3 hours customising Ubuntu Server and Debian Linux
> installs to make them work they way *we* want them to, with the
> software *we* want, and the configurations *we* need.  Most of that
> time is spent undoing all the "helpful" abstractions that
> Ubuntu/Debian devs think make life simpler (and they do, *IF* you use
> a GUI to manage things, but CLI users are left in the cold).  Just
> look at the horrible mess that is GRUB2 configuration on
> Ubuntu/Debina, with shell script snippets spread through 4 different
> directories.  Great for GUI tools to parse and update, but a royal
> pain for CLI users.

that could not be more true.

Ubuntu won't even ask if you want GRUB, it installs it and will replace your bootloader
regardless. I hate that.

this is one reason to just use ubuntu where it is alone, and won't harm no OS. FreeBSD asks, and
will respect my will to choose.

matheus

-- 
We will call you Cygnus,
The God of balance you shall be

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style



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