Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:15:11 -0800 From: Oleksandr Tymoshenko <gonzo@bluezbox.com> To: Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org> Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? Message-ID: <20190219081511.GA78044@bluezbox.com> In-Reply-To: <21E2EBA6-F4EE-4608-B2EA-AF731F892583@freebsd.org> References: <CANCZdfrEWX9jJVHUkFNijGpk9ii1H9PsUHtq=nD4M%2BnZacpCrQ@mail.gmail.com> <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20190218225407.GA7187@lonesome.com> <21E2EBA6-F4EE-4608-B2EA-AF731F892583@freebsd.org>
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Michael Gmelin (grembo@freebsd.org) wrote: > > > > On 18. Feb 2019, at 23:54, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things > >> simply on the "5 year old" basis. > > > > IIUC the graphics changes are being forced upon FreeBSD by external > > projects (mainly Linux-based) that are making huge architectural changes > > that rely more and more on features from newer hardware. > > > > If our upstreams aren't willing to do the work to keep from violating > > POLA on older hardware, IMHO it's an awful lot to ask of our already > > thinly stretched graphics volunteers to provide it in their stead. > > > > w/rt graphics, we are at far more danger of being left further and > > further behind on modern hardware than we are at risk of losing users > > on older hardware here. > > > > Again all IMHO. > > > > disclaimer: I don't use any fancy graphics stuff, so (as the old folks > > say around here) > > I’m very happy (and grateful) that 2018 was the first year in over a decade I was able to run FreeBSD on a state of the art laptop with all the features that are essential to me working - which included decent touchpad support provided through evdev+libinput. I want to second this. evdev + libinput was the only option out of several that provided smooth multitouch experience for Xorg on my 2018 laptop I really appreciate all the efforts to make it work both on kernel and ports side. -- gonzo
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