Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman <chrisc@vmunix.com> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, core@daemonnews.org, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104180329520.58715-100000@vnode.vmunix.com> In-Reply-To: <006501c0c7cf$ead41860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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If you look at the main web page, there is now a link to http://magazine.daemonnews.org. I have added an Advocacy Pack, its only 12 issues and they have to pay postage, but its a start. Thanks for the ideas. Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org Bringing BSD together On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman > > >I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you > >won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. > > > >However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be > >perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are > >International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more > >people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay > >to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time > >employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting > >rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to > >print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. > > > > Hi Chris, > > Be patient, patient, patient! I write a regular column for a computer > magazine that's local to my hometown and they have been in operation for > ten years now and are still mainly being distributed for free. I think your > doing pretty good if you have 800 subscribers after only a few issues being > printed, I think it's going to take you 2 years before you really get going > in terms of subscriptions, hang in there buddy! > > >FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is > >what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. > > > > Don't forget that the majority of those users obtain copies of FreeBSD for > merely the cost of their ISP connection via FTP over the Internet. How > many are regular subscribers to Walnut Creek? That's the userbase stats > you should care about - since those are folks that value FreeBSD enough to > part with some money for it. > > >Its time to start advocating. > > > > I'd suggest looking again at the Daemonnews homepage. Believe it or not, > when > I first saw in the mailing list that you guys were doing a print magazine I > went to the website, looking to sign up, and search as I might I couldn't > see a scrap of HTML that referred to it. I checked again, once or twice, > over the following months and still didn't see anything so I figured "Oh, > another > bogus rumor" and forgot about it. > > I was very surprised to get a promo copy of the magazine a couple weeks ago > for a magazine I didn't think existed! :-) (I'm even more surprised and a > little > disappointed that it's issue 3 since I'd like to get a copy of issue 2) > > Anyway, even today looking at http://www.daemonnews.org there is no menu > link to > the hardcopy of the magazine at the top menu. There is a sidebar - but you > have to > click on it to get to the mag, and there's no text in the sidebar saying > that it's > a magazine. I'd suggest that right next to the "Get BSD" red menu item, you > have a > "Daemon News Magazine" red menu item. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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