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Date:      Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:53:18 +0100
From:      Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SMTP and XREMOTEQUEUE
Message-ID:  <20020611075318.GB4969@submonkey.net>
In-Reply-To: <3D054BC1.974263A3@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020610124715.GA6885@submonkey.net> <20020611000603.GA25157@hades.hell.gr> <3D054BC1.974263A3@mindspring.com>

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On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 06:00:49PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2002-06-10 13:47 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > I have googled and grepped for this but I cannot find an answer, and
> > > it seems way too off topic for -questions, so maybe someone here
> > > won't mind telling me what the SMTP extension XREMOTEQUEUE is for,
> > > and where I can read some documentation on it.
> > 
> > I think that commands starting with 'X' are not part of the ESMTP
> > standard.  Looking through the RFCs, since I remembered that this is
> > the case from an earlier time that I had seen it I quote RFC 1869:
> 
> This is correct.

For sure.

> > Therefore, the answer to your question depends on what the server that
> > sends an XREMOTEQUEUE response has implemented it to mean.
> 
> This is a proprietary mechanism of triggering an ETRN, so that
> the ETRN itself can not be used as a means of a denial of
> service attack.  Apparently, you are talking to a Post.Office
> server (from Software.COM, or the company which purchased them,
> OneBox).

That's right - it's one of mine; as I flushed the queue on one of our exim
mailhubs yesterday I decided to watch it go, and noticed the above extension
in the dialogue for the first time in approx. 40 months!

I thought it was Openwave that had bought Software.COM, though ?

> In any case, XREMOTEQUEUE is not documented, and is a proprietary
> extension for the Post.Office folks.  You can reverse engineer it
> fairly easily by setting up two Post.Office machines to use it,
> and then monitoring the conversation between them.  But I really
> do not recommend it, given it's non-standard nature.

If it's Post.Office only then I'm not really bothered, as I'm leaving this
job at the end of next week and my new employers don't use it - it was just
one of those annoying "What they hey *is* that?" questions that get me all
worked up.

Thanks for the explanation (interesting thing is that I've just checked the
Post.Office docs and there's nothing in there about it either - ah well).

Ceri

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