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Date:      Mon, 7 May 2001 10:29:03 +0200 (CEST)
From:      James Tapping <james@fr.clara.net>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: freebsd bootdisk
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105071024280.18193-100000@munster.noc.fr.clara.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010506075422.L220@welearn.com.au>

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On Sun, 6 May 2001, Sue Blake wrote:

> Follow-ups to James and -questions please.
> No discussion of install problems should be held on -newbies.
> 
> On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:47:02PM +0200, James Tapping wrote:
> > 
> > Hello
> > 
> > I am new too FreeBSD and coming from the linux world...I have an old
> > 486 machine that I use as a NAT gateway using Debian Linux, and I
> > have never managed to get the machine to boot from the harddrive
> > (even after using a /boot partition etc), so i quite happily use a
> > boot-diskette. So my question is what and how does one do the
> > equivalent thing in FreeBSD?
> 
> That arrangement is a Linuxism that I've heard of before but don't
> fully understand. There is no direct equivalent for FreeBSD, because
> the two operating systems boot entirely differently. In order to solve
> your problem for FreeBSD, you need to start again with a totally
> FreeBSD approach, first defining the problem in an OS-independent
> manner.
> 
> > Yes, I have tried installing a FreeBSD on the machine and it doesn't
> > want to boot either, the machine justs asks for a diskette (nothing
> > in the bios settings either, its an IBM 433 DXS)
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> What version of FreeBSD are you installing?

4.3

> How much RAM does the machine have?

16MB

> How big is the hard disk, are you using all of it

3.2 gig and yes

Slicing, I used all of it...

> Did the standard FreeBSD installation succeed?

Yes until the moment where the machine reboots. And then of course it
dosen't :-) I don't see the words freeBSD atall, I get an ascii drawing
obviously asking me to put a diskette in the drive..., this comes from
the PC and nothing to do with Freebsd...It's an old machine and I am sure 
that this is where the problem is coming from.

> How much RAM does the machine have? That could be a limiting factor.
> How big is the hard disk, are you using all of it, and how have you
> sliced it (DOSSpeak=partition) for FreeBSD? We usually use a single
> slice and make partitions within that, unlike Linux.
> Did the standard FreeBSD installation succeed? If so, where
> do you first read the word "FreeBSD" when you try to boot?
> 
> If the machine has FreeBSD installed and is asking for a boot diskette,
> I can't imagine that it would be FreeBSD making that request. Perhaps
> scraps of the old boot manager remain?
> 
> > please reply personally as I am not subscribed to questions@ on newbies
> 
> No problem.
> 
> Perhaps you'll see someone on freebsd-questions correct me (and cc you)
> if I've said anything wrong. Meanwhile, James, can you provide some
> more information to freebsd-questions so that the support volunteers
> can help you? Exactly what have you got, and what have you done with it
> so far? If anyone can help you, they will do so on freebsd-questions
> with a cc to you but you might have to help the helpers a little more.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-

Thanks :-)

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