Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:21:53 -0700 From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> To: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> Cc: Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>, nate@mt.sri.com, java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TowerJ for FreeBSD Message-ID: <199901250221.TAA03659@mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <199901250153.RAA07328@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199901250143.RAA23403@bubba.whistle.com> <199901250153.RAA07328@rah.star-gate.com>
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> We do have enough developers. No, we have plenty of people who claim to be developers, but no one willing to 'develop'. :) > We just have to motivate them and point > them in the "right" direction for instance Nate's suggestion of > beffing up our current jdk offering is a good point however once we > get there and I expect that it will be short term project : whats > next? I disagree. I've whined at the java-developers in the past, and it does no good. I've asked for testers dozens of times and not *once* have you responded. Also, updating our JDK is not a short-term effort. Someone could easily spend 10-20 hours/week working on it. If you were doing any development, it would be obvious. Also, once we get a good working JDK1.2, JDK1.2.1 will be released. Someone should feed the patches back to sun. What about JIT support? What about relations with a JIT vendor? We don't need a 'motivator', we need motivated people. Motivating people takes time, and is not a fun task, nor is it something that people will do on volunteer projects for any length of time w/out burning out. It's easier to just wait for motivated people to do something. > It would be nice if TowerJ was available for FreeBSD for commercial > entities to exploit. Sure it would, but have you approached them and asked for support? Have you offered to buy a license? As has been shown in the past, calls for 'talking to a vendor' have never been much use on getting software ported to FreeBSD. It takes motivated people willing to do it alone and doing more than send an email saying 'me too' to convince a vendor. > Nate, on a different topic, can you update the Java page to include > a pointer to http://www.enhydra.com -- Lutries uses a FreeBSD-style > copyright for their cool servlet framework. Feel free to commit the change in the CVS tree. I've kept it updated with whatever changes the developer have made. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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