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Date:      Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:54:18 +0200
From:      John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>
To:        Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>, Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>, Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: r1.322 of src/Makefile.inc1
Message-ID:  <20030305075418.GA82570@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <20030304223421.K18288@znfgre.tberna.bet>
References:  <20030304165037.GA7463@submonkey.net> <20030304220701.GC73366@sunbay.com> <20030305054755.GA80723@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> <20030304223421.K18288@znfgre.tberna.bet>

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:35:39PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, John Hay wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:07:01AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:50:37PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:
> > > >
> > > > Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
> > > >
> > > >   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
> > > >   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
> > > >
> > > >   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
> > > >
> > > > How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
> > > >
> > > >    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >
> > > Sorry, I don't use mergemaster(8) so I can't say.  Doug was
> > > all for this change, so he may be of some help here.
> >
> > I think it is because previously login.conf.db was optional. Now it
> > is kind of forced on you because all installations will have it. So
> > either you have to remember to delete it or remember to update it
> > after login.conf has changed.
> 
> Correct, but this is not a bad thing. :) mergemaster already prompts you
> to rebuild it when it's updated, so this is not rocket science.

Well I did not mean it was necessarily bad, but it is a change and might
be ok for -current. I'm just not so sure it is good for -stable too. Say
for instance someone is used to just editing /etc/login.conf and have
it take effect, so if he installs 4.8 and just edit /etc/login.conf, it
won't take effect as it did before.

> > FWIW I never used login.conf.db on
> > any of my machines because the system can read login.conf already
> > and I don't maintain high login rate machines.
> 
> Are you sure that login time is the only time that this is read? :)

Well, no. :-)

John
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John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org

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