Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 13:18:00 -0700 From: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <200209092018.g89KI5134038@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes:
> Dave Hayes wrote:
>> > Because it's not the same thing as a Schelling point. If I had
>> > meant "community", I would have used the word "community". What
>> > I meant was "Schelling point", so I said "Schelling point".
>> > [...examples...]
>> > As you can see, a Schelling point is a place that "everybody knows",
>> > but which was not arrived at by explicit agreement, but rather on a
>> > cutural basis of lowest mutal entropy.
>>
>> Hmm, I prefer to call these "localized consensual realities".
>
> Of course you do... it avoids you having to accept a consensual
> definition. 8-).
Exactly. ;) Besides, there is no such thing.
>> Thing is, they are still arbitrary. ;)
>
> Perhaps individually. On average, though, they are not, and
> that's really the only useful place to measure them, since
> measuring them elsewhere would be... arbitrary.
The average of an arbitrary measure is still arbitrary. ;)
>> >> This won't work for your case.
>> >
>> > Thanks! I'm glad my behaviour isn't ARBITRARY... 8-).
>>
>> It is.
>
> How is that possible, if you were able to predict it?
Because everything is arbitrary. QED.
>> >> Thus, the correct way to behave to you is to be irrational, in a
>> >> rational way. =)
>> > That's the way you are trying to behave, I'd agree, but it's not
>> > the correct way to behave, if you are to make a convincing argument,
>>
>> You presume I want to convince you.
>
> You're still talking, aren't you?
Actually I'm typing and I'm still not trying to convince you.
>> > Exactly. You solution is the same as a childs, and works about as
>> > well, overall, which is to say "not at all, as a long term approach".
>>
>> I thought the simplest solution to a problem was the best? ;)
>
> Childish and Simple is not an identity relationship.
You are actually going to argue that "ignoring trolls" isn't the
simplest answer?
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>>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<<
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.
-Richard P. Feynman
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