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Date:      Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:15:18 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        Kirk Bailey <idiot1@netzero.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: subject prepending
Message-ID:  <3D7A6C66.7060503@owt.com>
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Kirk Bailey wrote:

> Ah, you noticed the count problem also hum?
> wonder what it signifies. Some do it as soon as a magic number mysteriously
> close to 1024 is exceeded, others do not fowl up until over 1500 are reached.


I came to the conclusion that it was because they didn't hire the best 
programmers. They probably cost too much and this is a product that 
you can download for free.

The count behavior has been a problem for some time, so obviously 
highly experienced programmers weren't involved or they would have 
fixed it. I know that I have complained and supplied feedback about it 
for what seems like years and nothing has been done. This opinion may 
not be fair but it is an opinion formed over the years. I was always 
told that if it was a preconception, that it must be true. You have to 
attack software problems like they are also PR-problems because sooner 
or later they will be pr-problems.

One thing that helps is to not use Netscape as your browser. At least, 
don't use them at the same time. That took a while to get used to but 
IE does not break nearly as often as Netscape does. I upgrade IE 
everytime I get a security email from Microsoft. If I don't trust a 
site, I use konqueror (KDE) to visit the site.


> Very odd...


On 6.2.x, you can't let your inbox get up around 500 or things get 
really bad. I subscribe to cvs-all, -hackers, -ports, -questions, and 
-stable. If I didn't filter, I would be in trouble :).

Kent


> 
> Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
>>Kirk Bailey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I cannot set up to filter the List-ID: field in 4.74, alas. It does not offer
>>>that option. Possibly 6 does?
>>>
>>>
>>I use Netscape Messenger 6.2.3 and use the to and cc option. This
>>option was basically the same on 4.7x and 6.x. I looked at my filter
>>options and list-id was not one of them. I find that Messenger goes
>>strange on you when your folders get 1000+ messages in some of them.
>>
>>Kent
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 03:53:41PM -0400, Kirk Bailey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On this message being replied to, I show these headers:
>>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: subject prepending
>>>>>  Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 12:36:18 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>  From: "M.T." <mbsd@pacbell.net>
>>>>>    To: Kirk Bailey <idiot1@netzero.net>
>>>>>    CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>If I filter on 'From:', it's not going to work, as you chose to send
>>>>>it here in the CC field. A subject field keyed to the list's name,
>>>>>will work simply, no matter HOW you get it to the server, short of
>>>>>sending it there in a hand basket on parchment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>You're using:
>>>>
>>>>   X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U)
>>>>
>>>>By default that program will not display all of the message headers
>>>>--- you need to select the 'View all headers' option in order to do
>>>>that.  I haven't used Netscape 4.x for quite a while now, so I can't
>>>>remember the exact sequence of operations to do that.  However, if you
>>>>go to the File menu and select "Save As..." and save a message as a
>>>>.txt file you can then open it in Notepad or the like and see all of
>>>>the headers.
>>>>
>>>>Now, I know from experience that Netscape's filtering functionality is
>>>>perfectly capable of filtering on any SMTP header, although you will
>>>>probably have to set it up as a custom item as only a few common
>>>>headers are supplied as "pre-packaged" targets.  It shouldn't be too
>>>>taxing to configure.  I reckon "List-ID" is probably a tad more
>>>>effective than "Sender:" as a filtering term, but that's really a
>>>>matter of taste.
>>>>
>>>>       Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>       Matthew
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                       26 The Paddocks
>>>>                                                     Savill Way
>>>>                                                     Marlow
>>>>Tel: +44 1628 476614                                  Bucks., SL7 1TH UK
>>>>
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>>>>
>>--
>>Kent Stewart
>>Richland, WA
>>
>>http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
>>
> 


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Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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