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Date:      Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:08:09 +0100
From:      Lars Engels <lme@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
Cc:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CFT: Graphics support for /boot/loader
Message-ID:  <20090209200809.GK30761@e.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <200902081335.n18DZ2h4018582@lurza.secnetix.de>
References:  <20090208135053.12691emq58yl9m4k@webmail.leidinger.net> <200902081335.n18DZ2h4018582@lurza.secnetix.de>

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On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 02:35:02PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
>=20
> Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>  > Oliver Fromme wrote:
>  > > You can easily replace the background image, it's a
>  > > standard PCX image file.  You can even re-arrange the
>  > > position of the menu if necessary; there are simple
>  > > variable settings for that in the theme.conf file.
>  >=20
>  > What about the actual menu items, are they configurable too (e.g. when=
 =20
>  > I want single-user as F1... ACPI should work now on most systems and I=
 =20
>  > don't see why disabling it should be in the first position), or does =
=20
>  > it use the same stuff as the text menu for this (to fiddling with =20
>  > forth would be necessary)?
>=20
> The actual menu contents are in the beastie.4th file, just
> like for the old text menu.  So, yes, you'd need to speak
> FORTH in order to change that.
>=20
> How many of the FreeBSD developers are actually fluent in
> FORTH?  How many committers are able to review the .4th
> code that I wrote?
>=20
> Would there be strong resistance if I tried to replace FICL
> with something else that is not as brain-knotting as FORTH?
> Just to name an example, I once wrote a bourne-shell-like
> parser that would not be difficult to embed.  I assume that
> would enable many more developers and users to play with
> the boot menu stuff.

Great idea. That Forth code is really an obstacle for playing with the
boot menu...

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