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Date:      Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:04:33 +0100
From:      Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ?
Message-ID:  <c338da94-7249-bedf-fa87-e884b3146b36@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR02MB0974443E55742A14F4C83E92F6310@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References:  <VI1PR02MB0974443E55742A14F4C83E92F6310@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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From: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <c338da94-7249-bedf-fa87-e884b3146b36@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: Any idea why freebsd.org is using PayPal for donations ?
References: <VI1PR02MB0974443E55742A14F4C83E92F6310@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR02MB0974443E55742A14F4C83E92F6310@VI1PR02MB0974.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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On 2016/07/13 17:34, Manish Jain wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I yesterday made a very small donation of USD 10 to FreeBSD via my=20
> credit card. The amount is trifling, by all standards, but it made me=20
> happy. But I was mighty unhappy that FreeBSD donations at freebsd.org=20
> are now crafted by PayPal. In my opinion, PayPal is a bunch of thugs wh=
o=20
> charge 2x for everything they do.
>=20
> For making my donation, PayPal first set up a 'handshake' transaction o=
f=20
> USD 1. I had no option but to accept that transaction too. So I ended u=
p=20
> donating USD 10 to FreeBSD, and USD 1 to PayPal. As much as I want to=20
> donate to FreeBSD, I also want that none of my money ends up as booty=20
> with PayPal, a company I absolutely hate for its business model,=20
> practice and internal work ethos (I have worked at PayPal for 6 months =

> to know how bad things are at PayPal).
>=20
> The way the system works, I can't reclaim my USD 1 that now enriches=20
> PayPal accounts.

You will have donated via the FreeBSD Foundation as the legal entity
behind the project (ie. something that can run bank accounts and
disperse monies.)  It's actually a Foundation webpage that you get to by
clicking on the 'Donate' button on www.freebsd.org.

Now, that donations page gives you 4 different ways to donate money to
the project, of which PayPal is only one alternative.  'Click & Pledge'
looks to me like pretty much like what you would have wanted instead of
PayPal.  However, if you're unsure, why not ask the FF people?  There's
a form here:

https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/contact-us/

or there's phone numbers and e-mail addresses on that page.  Quite apart
from anything else, they will be very glad to get feedback on the
methods they provide for handling donations.

	Cheers,

	Matthew




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