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Date:      Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:02:42 -0600
From:      Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@dataplex.net>
To:        "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        rb@gid.co.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CTM like Swiss cheese
Message-ID:  <l03130300b0f4782e879a@[208.2.87.4]>
In-Reply-To: <199801280212.SAA14441@hub.freebsd.org>
References:  <l03130301b0f41a287062@[208.2.87.4]> from Richard Wackerbarth at "Jan 27, 98 05:13:11 pm"

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At 8:12 PM -0600 1/27/98, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
>Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
>> At 4:25 PM -0600 1/27/98, Bob Bishop wrote:
>> >Erm, what is going on with CTM? On src-cur, I'm having to ftp more
>> >increments than arrive by mail these days.
>>
>> It is a problem with the FreeBSD mail system. The fact that you CAN ftp
>> proves that they are getting out.
>>
>> Richard Wackerbarth
>
>	hey....who poked this finger in my eye?
>
>
>hub jmb[109] mail -v ctm-src-cur
>Subject: test
>
>
>hmmm.....
>
>
>.
>EOT
[...]
Yep. Your test got out to warchive. Since it was not a valid ctm file, it
croaked
as it should.

I guess that since the end users are complaining, we should start at their end.
When they receive an update but missed the previous one, we can go looking
in the
maillogs to see how far it went.  My logs go back only a week ... Let me know
when the problem is current and I can start chasing it from here to Jonathan.

Richard







Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

The original message was received at Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:09:23 -0800 (PST)
from pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/usr/sbin/ctm_rmail -p /archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/temporary -d
/archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-cur -l /var/log/ctm"
    (expanded from: <ctm-src-cur@wcarchive.cdrom.com>)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 "|/usr/sbin/ctm_rmail -p /archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/temporary -d
/archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-cur -l /var/log/ctm"... unknown mailer error 1

Reporting-MTA: dns; wcarchive.cdrom.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; pike.cdrom.com
Arrival-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:09:23 -0800 (PST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; ctm-src-cur@wcarchive.cdrom.com
X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; |/usr/sbin/ctm_rmail -p
/archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/temporary -d /archive/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-cur -l
/var/log/ctm@wcarchive.cdrom.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:09:24 -0800 (PST)

Return-Path: <owner-ctm-src-cur@FreeBSD.ORG>
Received: from pike.cdrom.com (pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222])
	by wcarchive.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01799
	for <ctm-src-cur@wcarchive.cdrom.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:09:23
-0800 (PST)
Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18])
	by pike.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02504
	for <ctm-src-cur@wcarchive.cdrom.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:11:38
-0800 (PST)
	(envelope-from owner-ctm-src-cur@FreeBSD.ORG)
Received: (from daemon@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13632
          for ctm-src-cur-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:05:56 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from owner-ctm-src-cur)
Received: (from jmb@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13627
          for ctm-src-cur; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:05:54 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from jmb)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:05:54 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Message-Id: <199801280205.SAA13627@hub.freebsd.org>
To: ctm-src-cur@hub.freebsd.org
Subject: test
Sender: owner-ctm-src-cur@FreeBSD.ORG
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Precedence: bulk
>ctm-src-cur... aliased to "|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l
>ctm-src-cur -f FreeBSD-ctm-src-cur-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG
>ctm-src-cur-outgoing"
>"|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l ctm-src-cur -f
>FreeBSD-ctm-src-cur-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG  ctm-src-cur-outgoing"...
>Connecting to prog...
>"|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l ctm-src-cur -f
>FreeBSD-ctm-src-cur-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG  ctm-src-cur-outgoing"... Sent
>hub jmb[110] tail -1000 /var/log/maillog | grep ctm-src-cur
>Jan 27 18:06:17 hub sendmail[13632]: SAA13632: from=owner-ctm-src-cur,
>size=431, class=-60, pri=1548431, nrcpts=48,
>msgid=<199801280205.SAA13627@hub.freebsd.org>, relay=daemon@localhost
>Jan 27 18:06:18 hub sendmail[13627]: SAB13627:
>to="|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l ctm-src-cur -f
>FreeBSD-ctm-src-cur-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG  ctm-src-cur-outgoing",
>delay=00:00:24, xdelay=00:00:23, mailer=prog, stat=Sent
>
>SAA13632*      14 Tue Jan 27 18:05 owner-ctm-src-cur
>                                   rec-ctm@hclb.demon.co.uk
>                                   Yves Fonk <yves@atcmp.nl>
>                                   jcc@wa6iyh.ampr.org (Jim Cotillier)
>                                   ctm-src-cur@gw.muc.ditec.de
>                                   curtism@asdn.on.ca
>                                   bob2@orion.stationsoft.fr
>                                   /dev/null
>                                   ctm@scotty.masternet.it
>                                   ctm@xaa.stack.nl
>                                   vas@plesnik.bonsai.de
>                                   ctm@kyklopen.ping.dk
>                                   freebsd@nis.de
>                                   ctm.current@gid.co.uk
>                                   ctm-receiver@tejblum.uu.cti.ru
>                                   yuuitiro@system-cobo.co.jp
>                                   ctm-src-cur@ftp.freebsd.org
>                                   kodama@ayame.mfd.cs.fujitsu.co.jp
>                                   baystars@po.infosphere.or.jp
>                                   yamauchi@atlas.rc.m-kagaku.co.jp
>                                   kimios@mnet.or.jp
>                                   freebsd@gundaker.com
>                                   Christian.Gusenbauer@utimaco.co.at
>                                   apache@tceb.edu.tw
>                                   ap@bonn.netsurf.de
>                                   jwb@ulysses.homer.att.com
>                                   ctm@server.office.bn.ivm.net
>                                   jhs@wiley.muc.ditec.de
>                                   wing@cc.nsysu.edu.tw
>                                   bob@luke.pmr.com
>                                   freebsd-ctm@ntl.co.jp
>                                   piquan@wcc.net
>                                   src-cur@grondar.za
>                                   morimoty@cb3.so-net.or.jp
>                                   ctm@gaspode.franken.de
>                                   yves@ATComputing.nl
>                                   jhs@freebsd.org
>                                   arnout@tomcat.xs4all.nl
>
>hub jmb[113] wc -l /home/mail/lists/ctm-src-cur
>      48 /home/mail/lists/ctm-src-cur
>
>	the maillogs do not show the mail getting rejected by
>	hub.freebsd.org......wanna help me work on this?
>jmb


Richard Wackerbarth





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