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Date:      Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:04:00 -0500
From:      Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <56AA4A00.6000103@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20160128170037.GR37895@zxy.spb.ru>
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On 2016-01-28 12:00, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:09:56AM -0500, Allan Jude wrote:
>=20
>>>> Yes, but but real usage of it would happen in a second step because =
of many
>>>> rought edges to be deal with. but yes the information would be avail=
able
>>>>
>>>> see:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBr6izhH5P1I
>>>> and
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dv7px6ktoDAI
>>>>
>>>> for a bigger view of what happened (note that some detail my have ch=
ange a bit,
>>>> the overall remains the same)
>>>
>>> What about upgrade strongly outdated system?
>>> For example 11.0 at time 18.0? I.e. packages for 11.0 don't available=
,
>>> pkg from 11.0 don't undertund package base from 18.0 and etc.
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>>
>> According to our current release schedule, FreeBSD 18.0 will not come
>> out for 35 years (2051).
>=20
> Schedule may be changed.
> How you calculate this? As I see next mayor release gone in 2 year.
> 18-11=3D7, 14 years, in 2030.
> Ok, let 15.0 or 16.
> I am work from FreeBSD 2.0, I am use (now) installation with 5.4, why
> I can't planed about 11 to 18 upgrade?
>=20

You are correct sorry, I was thinking of the 5 year lifecycle of each
release, not the 2 year cadence of new releases.

Upgrading from an End-of-Life release is specifically not supported. It
is not a burden that RE@ should have to deal with.

>> The general approach would appear to be just downloading new packages
>> and updating the system. For a drastic upgrade like that, you'd likely=

>> have to build a newer version of pkg from ports.
>=20
> You kidding. Ports from 18.0 cant't be build on 11.0. This trivial
> expirence, ports tree incomatible change every 5-6 years.
>=20
>> The approach for offering an upgrade from 10.x to 11.0 will be the mor=
e
>> interesting endeavour.
>=20
> I am guess this is already study.
> My interests in long run.
>=20


--=20
Allan Jude


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