Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:46:26 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc Message-ID: <20060830214626.6f7bc7f0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <p0623091ec11bdac4f347@[128.113.24.47]> References: <200608290920.k7T9KmV9067843@repoman.freebsd.org> <86zmdmfoow.fsf@dwp.des.no> <p0623091cc11b704fff62@[128.113.24.47]> <20060830202834.GA11284@rambler-co.ru> <20060830192456.2497b4bd.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <p0623091ec11bdac4f347@[128.113.24.47]>
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:42:19 -0400 Garance A Drosehn <gad@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On Aug 30/06, Tom Rhodes asks the reasonable question: > >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:28:34 +0400 > >Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:41:51PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > > > > >> > I do think those comments and examples are useful, but it might be > > > > better to move those lines into separate files. > > > > > > I think they should be moved to /usr/share/examples/etc/ (like > >> make.conf), with files in /etc/ representing good (short) defaults > > > with a minimum of comments and probably references to examples. > > > >Question is, what files will be moved? All configuration files > >or just "some" ? > > I would not move "all" of them. I think the proper rule would be > "Split up the ones which constantly annoy me when they change". > Obviously that's a rather subjective criteria... A better criteria might be those which may be modified and may have issues with merging. > > We could pick off a few and change those, and then see if there > are anymore which should be split up. My list would be: > /etc/hosts > /etc/hosts.allow > /etc/pf.conf > /etc/printcap Of course, my criteria would be moving a lot, including the firewall rulesets, login.conf, malloc.conf, etc. We should be careful here, there is a chance we could get carried away and see a ton of files getting moved. I'm skeptical of this as it makes configuration files normally stored in /etc a moving target ... yet it might be good, have you ran an ls in Linux /etc lately ... damn. > > These are files which have "too many" helpful comments or examples > in them, and which I have to modify on every single machine I ever > bring up. So *every* time one of these changes, I have to stop and > stare at the diff in the mergemaster step, and 99% of the time the > change is just to fix or improve some comment. And in many cases, > the change is to some line that I remove in my custom copy. Now > all of those changes seem to be good changes, but they are still > an annoyance when it comes to merging in my local changes. Agreed. > > I've also had a vague plan to split up /etc/newsyslog.conf, but > in that case most of the lines I want to move are "real" lines > (not comments), so that requires some coding changes to make it > work the way I'd want it to work. As would my idea. ;) -- Tom Rhodes
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