Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 14:55:58 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An odd vital FreeBSD-set-* result? Message-ID: <9B20ED6C-6B45-4C08-BF9C-3B524AEA136D@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <D00275AE-2E13-45AC-AAF4-D5410E07553E@yahoo.com> References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> <aM17O4zQDo606x9V@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <D00275AE-2E13-45AC-AAF4-D5410E07553E@yahoo.com>
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On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:18, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
[Just notice that I'd referenced the wrong files in part of
the below.]
> On Sep 19, 2025, at 08:48, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> Mark Millard wrote in <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com>:
>>> # pkg-static install -U -rFreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>>>
>>> Afterwards I tried deleting FreeBSD-set-* without force
>>> being requested and it reported only 4 as vital and
>>> allowed the others to be deleted:
>>
>> are you able to reproduce this on a clean system (e.g., in a chroot)?
>> if so, the particular sequence of commands that triggers it would be
>> useful to have.
>
> I think the below means I do not need to do this: the *.pkg files
> agree with the "only 4" status.
>
>> also, please show the output of this command on the affected system:
>>
>> pkg info | awk '/^FreeBSD-set-/ { print $1 }' | xargs pkg query '%n %V'
>
> Unfortunately since the deletes happened, the FreeBSD-set-* in
> question are no longer listed in the info output.
>
> Similarly for my later having forcing the delete of the 4 that did
> report being vital.
>
> So, overall: empty output on both systems.
>
> But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves
> agree with the just-4-vitals status:
>
> amd64:
>
> # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital:
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> name: "FreeBSD-set-base"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-src"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests"
>
>
> aarch64:
>
> # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital:
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> name: "FreeBSD-set-base"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail"
> vital: true
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-src"
> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests"
>
> Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the
> name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is:
>
> categories: [
> "base"
> ]
> annotations: {
> FreeBSD_version: "1600000"
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg"
> origin: "base"
>
>
> The example also showing the lack of vital: for lib32 is:
>
> . . .
> categories: [
> "base"
> ]
> annotations: {
> FreeBSD_version: "1600000"
> }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32"
> origin: "base"
> version: "16.snap20250912212418"
> comment: "32-bit compatibility libraries (metapackage)"
> maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org"
> www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org"
> abi: "FreeBSD:16:aarch64"
> arch: "freebsd:16:aarch64:64"
> prefix: "/"
> flatsize: 0
> licenselogic: "single"
> licenses: [
> "BSD2CLAUSE"
> ]
> desc: "This metapackage installs compatibility libraries required for building and\nrunning 32-bit applications on a 64-bit host system."
> . . .
>
> (When listed, vital: is the line just before "desc:".)
>
> So the problem appears to have been from upstream.
>
> For reference, amd64:
>
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450~c89aadaed9.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~d584303e89.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450~afeee71eda.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~94132e3b9c.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757~cd5edfd16f.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~d150e3cf2e.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739~01dd34d6a9.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~6bf2e897c8.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450~d5a6a3a3cb.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~a9dbb207b2.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757~3e33cdaaf4.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757~74d0186d0e.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226~7620158652.pkg
>
>> i've tested this here and even if FreeBSD-set-src isn't marked as vital
>> prior to the upgrade, it becomes vital after updating, which seems to be
>> the expected behaviour from a quick inspection of the pkg(8) source.
>
> It appears that what happend in my environment matches the materials
> downloaded from upstream. It seems upstream is what needs the
> investigation.
>
> Again, I wonder if the /usr/src/ downloaded did not match what was
> actually built and downloaded.
>
> For reference, amd64 context:
>
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450~1656b05fd3.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450.pkg
> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450~c6577afa66.pkg
Above I should have referenced:
/var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg
/var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg
> Side Note:
>
> Looking around I do see an oddity in /var/db/pkg/ :
>
> # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-15.*.pkg | wc -l
> 840
>
> Those *.pkg files have (local) date/times that are rather old:
>
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 65 Jan 25 23:51:43 2025 /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330.pkg -> FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330~ab7a13a036.pkg
> . . .
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 13161 Dec 8 13:22:05 2024 /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libmagic-man-15.snap20241208191210~5c9a803aa3.pkg
>
> # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg | wc -l
> ls: /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg: No such file or directory
> 0
>
> Looks to me like I should delete these old *.pkg files
> from /var/db/pkg/ .
===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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