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Date:      Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:43:54 +0300
From:      Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@gmail.com>
To:        "Robert N. M. Watson" <robert.watson@cl.cam.ac.uk>, Sergiu Weisz <sergiu121@gmail.com>,  Elena Mihailescu <elenamihailescu22@gmail.com>, Darius Mihai <dariusmihaim@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenStack hosting with FreeBSD + bhyve?
Message-ID:  <CANg1yUvyrm0tFDoPpecihfR1CdsCH9kicsX7eZo4y5LpY69pCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Robert,

We are also running Openstack at our University (University POLITEHNICA of
Bucharest). Mainly we are using KVM hypervisors.

We had last year a diploma project to bring in support for bhyve as a
hypervisor in Openstack. The whole nova part was resolved (we were able to
create guests using the Openstack commands) but openvswitch (used by
neutron service) was still in progress (so no networking at that time).
There is a paper that does an overview of the current work:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9266213

If you need more details or acces to code, Sergiu and Elena at CC can help
us.

Thank you,
Mihai

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 9:24 PM Robert N. M. Watson <
robert.watson@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Arm is releasing a new experimental CPU + SoC + board in early 2021,
> Morello, based on our CHERI research at SRI International and the
> University of Cambridge. At Cambridge, we=E2=80=99re looking to create a =
=E2=80=98Morello
> Cloud=E2=80=99 facility to allow intra- and inter-institutional access to=
 Morello
> virtual machines hosted on a couple of racks of Morello boards, which wou=
ld
> run CheriBSD (our CHERI-extended version of FreeBSD). Cambridge's Researc=
h
> Computing Services currently use OpenStack to host VMs on several HPC
> clusters out of our main university datacenter, and it seems that we will
> ask them to host and manage the Morello Cloud facility for us. We=E2=80=
=99ve
> identified and largely resolved on key technical dependency, bhyve suppor=
t
> for not just arm64, but also Morello, and so that seems likely to be read=
y
> by our 2022 launch date.
>
> Which then raises the question: What obstacles exist between us and havin=
g
> FreeBSD host OpenStack compute VMs using bhyve on these boards? OpenStack
> has a lot of moving parts, and casual googling has not made it immediatel=
y
> obvious to me whether there is currently a community of FreeBSD OpenStack
> users using FreeBSD for hosting, rather than just on VMs. I see lots of
> queries (and information) on VM image creation, but all I=E2=80=99ve spot=
ted really
> spotted on the hosting topic was a 2014 presentation from Semihalf.
> However, their Nova GitHub repository that appears untouched since roughl=
y
> then:
>
>         https://github.com/Semihalf/openstack-nova <
> https://github.com/Semihalf/openstack-nova>;
>
> I wonder if anyone on this list could point me at anything more recent, o=
r
> if there are folks actively working on this currently / have OpenStack
> deployed with FreeBSD hosting + bhyve? We can put in some amount of
> engineering effort, but right now we=E2=80=99re running a bit context fre=
e as to
> whether there=E2=80=99s existing work in this space.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert

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