Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 15:10:17 -0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?Lucas_Nali_de_Magalh=C3=A3es?= <rollingbits@gmail.com> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root Message-ID: <89AFBF75-09BD-4AA2-B575-CB9D915D08AC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <577BC6B6-DA44-47FD-A70B-A30404968E4F@gmail.com> References: <577BC6B6-DA44-47FD-A70B-A30404968E4F@gmail.com>
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On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Lucas Nali de Magalhães <rollingbits@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 5:38 AM, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> >> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!! (…) > > I'm used to see FreeBSD remembered as a traditional OS full of professionalism > and open to innovation. The front door for the BSD world and an OS that doesn't > copy Linux. But more and more I'm seeing that BSD will need a new front door > soon, that this OS is becoming more and more another Linux, that professionalism > is being left aside and that innovation is being undone and/or simply erased. > I wish I were about to write that it's the first time in a lot of time that I see a problem > being systematically recreated but this isn't true either. And I feel sad I'm being > getting used to this, too. > > Mark Millard found that LLVM multi-threaded linker is buggy on Armv7 and reported > it in another thread. I commented on it, even. It wasn't mention in that thread that the > numbers there shows another problem recreated that must be solved again. The > processes there were killed *before* virtual memory started to being heavily used. This > goes against the intended use of virtual memory. If virtual memory isn't used it's lost > resource: a thing that must be removed from the system, optimized away. In that > specific case, virtual memory should have entered into place, being fully filled and then > the process will be killed. And just to be complete, the non-debuggability of LLVM were > a known problem of LLVM by the time of the discussions that lead to it's import in the > tree. And, by mentioning problems needing solution, I received: Post to freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org denied: Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root This used to not be a problem. I know of what followed were the truth and I've no intention in changing my status about this. And this huge thread is about a cosmetic change. Fantastic! -- rollingbits — 📧 rollingbits@icloud.com 📧 rollingbits@gmail.com 📧 rollingbits@yahoo.com
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