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Date:      Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:22:04 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Simmons <rsimmons@wlcg.com>
To:        "f.johan.beisser" <jan@caustic.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: theo
Message-ID:  <20020125182148.X41395-100000@mail.wlcg.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020125151048.C32624-100000@localhost>

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Thank you, if I knew you I would kiss you.

Robert Simmons
Systems Administrator
http://www.wlcg.com/
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, f.johan.beisser wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Robert Simmons wrote:
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> > Lets say someone has a machine they don't have console access to, but they
> > know that the OS comes back every time they reboot the fucker.
> >
> > The kernel is on the old hard drive, with the swap garbage.  The brand
> > spanking new OS is mirrored on a twed.  How can I tell that the core
> > team's brand spanking newly de scriptkiddified kernel is the one that
> > boots?  dmesg?
>
> generally, i can tell via an ls -al /kernel, and checking the timestamp.
> failing that, i can look at the output from uname:
>
> FreeBSD pogo.caustic.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 14
> 11:14:38 PST 2001  root@pogo.caustic.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/POGO i386
>
> and looking at that alone, i can tell (i tend to rebuild the kernel once
> each major change/kernel level patch. so, in this case, the timestamp on
> the uname output (Wed Nov 14 11:14:38 PST 2001) tells me that this is the
> kernel i build ages ago.
>
> should i do more frequent rebuilds, the string "FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1"
> would tell me which build number of the kernel (since building POGO's
> first kernel) i have.
>
> if what you're refrencing is the specific kernel loaded by the loader,
> unless you change it at boot time (unload kernel, load <altkernel>, boot),
> it will default to /kernel.
>
> > BTW, there isn't a floppy installed, nor a CD_ROM.
>
> that's fine, you can change the device that the kernel is loaded from if
> you really wish too.
>
> > Also, you win, you people get the prize for the most security alerts in
> > one year. :)
>
> thanks. i tend to be glad to see so many security alerts. makes me feel
> like someone is finding, and fixing, problems in the OS. "Security is not
> a product, it is a process" and all that jazz.
>
> btw, anyone know who said that? i'm inclined to think it's bruce schneier.
>
>
>
> -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+
>   http://caustic.org/~jan                      jan@caustic.org
>     "John Ashcroft is really just the reanimated corpse
>          of J. Edgar Hoover." -- Tim Triche
>
>
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