Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:18:08 -0800 From: Matthew Tippett <matthew@phoronix.com> To: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server Message-ID: <4EF133D0.4050800@phoronix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF10088.1010409@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4EE1EAFE.3070408@m5p.com> <CAJ-FndDniGH8QoT=kUxOQ%2BzdVhWF0Z0NKLU0PGS-Gt=BK6noWw@mail.gmail.com> <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <CAFHbX1%2B5PttyZuNnYot8emTn_AWkABdJCvnpo5rcRxVXj0ypJA@mail.gmail.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <CAPjTQNEJDE17TLH-mDrG_-_Qa9R5N3mSeXSYYWtqz_DFidzYQw@mail.gmail.com> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <CADWvR2hpooV4Sdkzor6oHpXWkLCz0z0UxBB_-nnrnYLeUY5oow@mail.gmail.com> <4EF10088.1010409@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to
reproduce the benchmarks in question.
Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org.
Run the benchmark against those used in the article
phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37
You will be asked to push the comparison up to openbenchmarking at the end.
Matthew
On 12/20/2011 01:39 PM, O. Hartmann wrote:
> On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozolevsky wrote:
>> Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on
>> criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative
>> benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to
>> benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any
>> numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, or any other "real
>> world"-application torture tests done on the aforementioned two
>> platforms... IMO, this just goes to show that "doing is hard" and
>> "criticising is much easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony involved in
>> making this statement, but someone has to!)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Igor M :-)
> Unfortunately, M. Larabel is the only one who's performing benchmarks on
> FreeBSD, comparing its performance to the Linux-opponents. Adn indeed,
> there is a lot of criticism, but no alternative.
> I said unfortunately - not offensive - since Larabel and Phoronix are
> sadly the only ones who do actually such bechmarking.
>
> It would be much more nicer and kind to support those people.
>
> Well, in January/February we get new hardware. One box is supposed to do
> number crunching via 12 cores and a TESLA GPU. My colleague is
> developing a high parallelized peice of software for satellite data
> transformation. The software package is CPU bound, partially GPU, but
> massively memory hungry (96 to 128 GB RAM is needed).
> What I can offer is, since I will also work on that machine and I've
> free hand to administer, in the spare time of doing my PhD, installing
> FreeBSD 9.0/10.0 besides SuSe Linux and looking forward having one ZFS
> data storage drive for homes, so both systems can perform on a most
> recent ZFS. I'm new to Linux, not a BSD guru, nor I'm a professional
> programmer/developer. My skills are sufficient for the daily scientific
> work. So, without pressure, I'm willing to perform some HPC benchmarks
> under advice if the day comes and those interested in bare numbers of
> FreeBSD vs. Linux performance with a real-world-scientific application.
>
> I would appreciate to see some of the developers and/or FreeBSD hackers
> to help Phoronix setting up a proper testenvironment instead of bashing
> M. Larabel and his fellows.
>
> Regards,
> Oliver
>
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