Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:17:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> Cc: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: Re: uucp user shell and home directory Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110021415090.92100-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <15290.5260.610951.681033@nomad.yogotech.com>
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > POP and IMAP (I think) will lose all the envelope information, > > > > > > You've been listening to Terry too long. It's certainly not the case, > > > although I've decided to quit arguing with Terry, since it's an > > > excercise in futility. No matter what you say, he'll either change the > > > subject or simply overwhelm you with useless/unrelated material until > > > you simply abandon any hope of trying to give out useful information. > > > > > > > SMTP is a PUSH operation.. > > > > > > > > so for a PULL operation that can handle envelope information (e.g. BCC) > > > > you need UUCP > > > > > > See above. fetchmail + pop works fine. I've been get all of my envelope > > > information, and there is no worries. > > > > This has noty been the case where I have seen.. > > Again, as has been pointed out, it's the responsibility of the *sender* > to make sure all of the envelope information is properly respected. > > POP3 is a mail retriever, designed to retrieve mail for a single user. > It preserves all of the necessary information that a 'receiver' needs. > > Now, if you're doing something that POP3 was never intended to do (ie; > handle multiple users with a single mailbox), then we're talking > something completely different. This isn't something POP3 was designed > to do. exactly my point.. fetchmail/pop does not do what uucp does... (pull mail between hops on the mail delivery path). > > The problem isn't a fetchmail/POP3 problem. It's trying to stuff > multiple users into a single account. UUCP doesn't 'solve' this problem > anymore, since you still need the ability to have multiple 'user' > accounts at the ISP, even with UUDP. No, uucp dosn't require this.. it will just pass on the envelope information withuot trying to interpret it.. i.e. it does this correctly (assuming you set it up correctly) > > > > Nate > > > ETRN also is a good 'fetch' mechanism, if your ISP sets up MX records > > > for you. When you come up, you simply telnet into your ISP's mail > > > server, then type 'ETRN foobar.com', and it'll dump all your email to > > > the IP address of your static configuration. > > > > > > However, this won't work for roving users. > > > > It doesn't even work well for static users in large configurations.. > > as it requires a full queue scan. (some mail servers do this better than > > others). > > Right, David and I just had a long offline talk about this. > > > > Nate > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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