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Date:      Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:44:20 +0200
From:      Axel Rau <Axel.Rau@Chaos1.DE>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
Cc:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: timeouts on USB ISP programmer
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There are also reports of DIAMEX devices not working on linux (in German):
	https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/508937 <https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/508937>;
I should better try to get an original ATmel tool.
Unfortunately they no longer produce simple programmers.

A

> Am 10.04.2022 um 12:37 schrieb Axel Rau <Axel.Rau@chaos1.de>:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 09.04.2022 um 01:39 schrieb Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info <mailto:tomek@cedro.info>>:
>> 
>> 
>> Long story short:
>> * Put both dip-switches to OFF if you use external board (no VCC
>> connection required). They may stay ON if you program "bare" AVR (you
>> need to connect VCC, SW1=ON, SW2 OFF=3.3V ON=5V).
> My switches are always on; my MCU is in the ZIFF socket. (-:
>> * Try `avrdude -c stk500v2 -p 85 -vvv -t` and see of that connects to
>> Programmer.
> That’s what I did.
> 
>> * If programmer is connected but AVR communication problems you may
>> slow down the STK500v2 bit clock with `-B` parameter or ISP clock with
>> `-i` according to [4] (i.e. `-B 250` will result in 4kHz bit clock).
>> 
>> Good luck and let us know if that works :-)
> 
> 
> root@home2l:/ #	avrdude -c stk500v2 -p t85 -P /dev/cuau1 -t -vvv -B 250 -i 90
> . . .
> avrdude: Version 6.4
>          Copyright (c) Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/ <http://www.bdmicro.com/>;
>          Copyright (c) Joerg Wunsch
> 
>          System wide configuration file is "/usr/local/etc/avrdude.conf"
>          User configuration file is "/root/.avrduderc"
>          User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
> 
>          Using Port                    : /dev/cuau1
>          Using Programmer              : stk500v2
>          Setting bit clk period        : 250.0
>          Setting isp clock delay        :  90
> avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
> avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
> avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout
> 
> I think, the DIAMEX is defective, I try to get another one.
> Perhaps the drivers are gone.
> 
> How can I verify this?
> ---
> PGP-Key: CDE74120  ☀  computing @ chaos claudius
> 

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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">There are also reports of DIAMEX devices not working on linux (in German):<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span><a href="https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/508937" class="">https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/508937</a><br class=""><div class="">I should better try to get an original ATmel tool.</div><div class="">Unfortunately they no longer produce simple programmers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 10.04.2022 um 12:37 schrieb Axel Rau &lt;<a href="mailto:Axel.Rau@chaos1.de" class="">Axel.Rau@chaos1.de</a>&gt;:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 09.04.2022 um 01:39 schrieb Tomek CEDRO &lt;<a href="mailto:tomek@cedro.info" class="">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt;:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Long story short:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">* Put both dip-switches to OFF if you use external board (no VCC</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">connection required). They may stay ON if you program "bare" AVR (you</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">need to connect VCC, SW1=ON, SW2 OFF=3.3V ON=5V).</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote>My switches are always on; my MCU is in the ZIFF socket. (-:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">* Try `avrdude -c stk500v2 -p 85 -vvv -t` and see of that connects to</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Programmer.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote>That’s what I did.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">* If programmer is connected but AVR communication problems you may</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">slow down the STK500v2 bit clock with `-B` parameter or ISP clock with</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">`-i` according to [4] (i.e. `-B 250` will result in 4kHz bit clock).</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Good luck and let us know if that works :-)</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">root@home2l:/ #<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;">	</span>avrdude -c stk500v2 -p t85 -P /dev/cuau1 -t -vvv -B 250 -i 90</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">. . .</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: Version 6.4</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Copyright (c) Brian Dean, <a href="http://www.bdmicro.com/" class="">http://www.bdmicro.com/</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Copyright (c) Joerg Wunsch</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 15px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; System wide configuration file is "/usr/local/etc/avrdude.conf"</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; User configuration file is "/root/.avrduderc"</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 15px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Using Port&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : /dev/cuau1</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Using Programmer&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : stk500v2</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Setting bit clk period&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 250.0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Setting isp clock delay&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; :&nbsp; 90</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: ser_recv(): programmer is not responding</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Monaco; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">avrdude: stk500v2_ReceiveMessage(): timeout</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">I think, the DIAMEX is defective, I try to get another one.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Perhaps the drivers are gone.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">How can I verify this?</span></div><div class="">
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