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Date:      Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:57:33 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Joseph M. Scott" <jmscott@ainet.com>
To:        Gerry Marcelo <germar@pair.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How much RAM for newbie install?
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSU.4.05.9812152249070.12405-100000@www.ainet.com>
In-Reply-To: <009601be2851$fcc6c6a0$4677aacf@market5.kvue.com>

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	__MY $0.02__

	Once things are up and going ram is probably the first thing to
hit the wall.  X can certainly begin to eat into things, although this
will vary depending on the window manager that you use ( enlightment is a
massive pig, although it looks neat :-).  Even then it's not too bad as
long as you don't run an app like Netscape ( which is one big pig also ).
I've had good luck with rxvt as a replacement for xterm, some nice
features and a little better memory usuage.  Overall for X 8 meg will run
but it will hit the swap a fair bit.  16 meg would probably allow you to
run a few small apps with out hitting swap to much.  Although if you can
live with the performance hit then just make plenty of swap space and run
with it.
	As for Apace and Front Page save your self a lot of headache and
use the apache+fp port ( install the ports collection during the install
and after the system is up go to /usr/ports/www/apache13-fp and type make
install ).  It will download the needed files, compile apache run the fp
install and get things going.  You'll still want to go through things
after it's setup, but trust me it makes the frontpage part of things much
easier to deal with.
	You entering an awesome new world with much to learn.

* Joseph M. Scott
* jmscott@ainet.com
* American InfoMetrics
* Modesto, CA

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Gerry Marcelo wrote:

> Greetings:
> I am awaiting the arrival of my Walnut Creek CD-ROM package
> of FreeBSD 2.2.8.  I am a flat out newbie to UNIX after years of
> Microsoft products.  I wish to learn how to eventually set up a
> FreeBSD/Apache server with MS Frontpage 98 extentions for use as a small
> Intranet server.
> 
> I wish to install FreeBSD on the following "lab" computer to learn.
> It will be the only OS on the machine.
> 
> i486sx25 overclocked to 33 (chipset escapes me right now)
> 8megs of ram
> 2.0 Maxtor IDE hard drive
> Trident 8900D video card with 1mg ram
> No name multi-io card
> No name 28.8 internal modem
> OAS brand SVGA monitor
> 
> I believe the above equipment will allow an install (5meg minimum,
> correct?), but how much ram should I really have to allow me to learn the
> following:
> 1.  How to use the OS, it's filesystem and basic operation
> 2.  Experiment with Xwindows
> 3.  Install and become familiar with Apache/FP98 Extentions
> 
> This machine will never be used as a production machine...just for me to
> mess around with a learn what I can...I guess you might place it as a
> workstation class machine.
> 
> So how much ram might I need to to get all this done?
> Any suggestions on other types of hardware better suited for this task?
> 
> Thank you for your assistance.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
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