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Date:      Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:52:09 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk>
Cc:        Stephen Hurd <deuce@lordlegacy.org>, Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Helping victims of terror
Message-ID:  <3BAD1619.6185D081@mindspring.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010921173959.02994178@threespace.com> <NFBBJPHLGLNJEEECOCHAGEDNCEAA.deuce@lordlegacy.org> <20010922115619.B55559@jake.akitanet.co.uk>

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Paul Robinson wrote:
> This might be over the top, but this is all starting to get a little 1930's
> for my taste... some of the tactics being used by Bush to justify himself
> are definitely ones that wiff a little of those used by the man whose name I
> shall merely abbreviate as 'H'. Like I say, over the top, but it is all
> starting to feel rather surreal.

I have to disagree; I think a more apt analogy would be the 1940's.

The U.S. is in a fury similar to that following the bombing of
Perl Harbor: interviews on the UC Berkeley campus with students
who profess to have, up until recent events, held war and military
service as unconscionable, indicate a willingness to server in the
U.S. armed forces in order to deal with this event.  This is a
profound philosophical shift, at a fundamental level.

Stephen E. Ambrose, the only sanctioned biographer of the man,
who spent many hours interviewing him, quotes Dwight D. Eisenhower
as saying "Hitler should beware of the fury of an aroused democracy".

These words were echoed in the Protocol of Proceedings of the
Potsdam Conference, in August of 1945:

	The result of the futile and senseless German resistance
	to the might of the aroused free peoples of the world
	stands forth in awful clarity as an example to the people
	of Japan. The might that now converges on Japan is
	immeasurably greater than that which, when applied to the
	resisting Nazis, necessarily laid waste to the lands, the
	industry and the method of life of the whole German people.
	The full application of our military power, backed by our
	resolve, All mean the inevitable and complete destruction
	of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the
	utter devastation of the Japanese homeland.

	The time has come for Japan to decide whether she will
	continue to be controlled by those self-willed militaristic
	advisers whose unintelligent calculations have brought the
	Empire of Japan to the threshold of annihilation, or whether
	she will follow the path of reason. 

        Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them.
	There are no alternatives. We shall brook no delay. 

       	There must be eliminated for all time the authority and
	influence of those who have deceived and misled the people
	of Japan into embarking on world conquest, for we insist
	that a new order of peace security and justice will be
	impossible until irresponsible militarism is driven from
	the world.

Perhaps the participants in this thread are unaware of history,
or are unaware of how resolute the majority of the U.S. truly is,
with regard to the recent terrorist attacks.

The only thing missing is the explicit parallel statement "...until
terrorism is driven from the world".

-- Terry

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