Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:26:23 +0400 From: wwwadmin <unkn0wn@megabit.ru> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP Webfrontends for Management Message-ID: <20070831102623.2161b8ff@castle.megabit.ru> In-Reply-To: <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1dbad3150708291826y5ed57502l5915aba62f71f62c@mail.gmail.com> <46D6F1CD.30805@ccstores.com> <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com>
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SysCP have one big weakness - it disallow choise database name, only like "<client_domain>_1". I try to install raqdevil, but half-year ago it was in beta state and work not stable. Now situation is not different. Webmin will be difficult for customers. I DTC use on my hosting machine, have no trouble: it allow apache/exim/mysql/mailman admining, dependencies are only sbox, sudo, chrootid and rrdtool, other dependencies are only needed features like apache, mysql, etc. > Hi @list, > > (i would answer to the list, not to the persons only) > > First thanks for the suggestions. > > Now my personal opinions: > I like solutions that ar small, smart and easy to administrate/update. > Such as syscp. But syscp doesn't have all the functionality that i > like. dtc looks very good, but have tons of dependencies that are not > really needed. > raqdevil shold be a good solution if it get installed right, but it > doesn't in a jail. > > webin is overloaded, while the customer from me doesn't like a fully > system management, and in the last twelve years of my experiences with > linux/freebsd > i have many many boxes seen that have been cracked and misused as > mailgateways/streamingservers > or public ftpservers from crackers. because the updates from webin > are not all times > maked fast enough. > > qmail is good but for me it is a little bit to complex to handle, > i prefer combinations such as > named(bind9)/postfix/sa/dspam/cyrus-imap(also with murder-config) or > courier or dovecot for small > enviroments. for Databases i like to prefer postgresql before mysql > and apache or lightttpd. > > And that are the components that i have to manage over a single > webfrontend. So that at this moment syscp is the only one that can > handle this and only this, > not more and not less, but it lacks of support for sa/dspam. > ok dspam brings his own webfrontend but sa not and sa is very complex > to configure while it has tons of features......so i think about it > to leave it out from > the box and use only dspam..... > > the webfrontends for cyrus are not really good IMHO > > thanks for your suggestions > > regards > > michael > > Michael Schuh wrote: > > > Hi @list, > > > > > > i search a good/reliable/stable possibility to manage > > > Domains/users/mailaccounts/webspace/servers etc. > > > per Http... > > > > > > I have searched throug google and the ports-tree and the only > > > two frontends that i have found are sysutils/syscp and > > > www/raqdevil. > > > > > > syscp shows me very clear and a little bit poor but stable and > > > mature > > enough > > > to use it. > > > > > > raqdevil is horridble to install clean and runnable in a jail, > > > and it uses originally code from SUN Microsystems Cobalt-Raq's, > > > so that it seems to me a little bit difficult to use it..... > > > > > > Can anyone point me to other frontends ( preferred supported > > > through the ports-tree), > > > and/or to an frontend to cfengine ( if it gave one)? > > > > > > Thanks for all > > > > > > regards > > > > > > michael > > > >
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