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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 2023 03:27:08 -0500
From:      Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
To:        matti k <mattik@gwsit.com.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule
Message-ID:  <C3D0B69D-2A0A-47AB-9BF1-6DD49F05B3C0@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20231115183857.2c728fa5@ws1.wobblyboot.net>
References:  <20231115183857.2c728fa5@ws1.wobblyboot.net>

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Well, today is your yesterday, so we might not be ready for another more tom=
orrows your time, yesterdays, my time.  Or something.

Glen
Sent from my phone.
Please excuse my brevity and/or typos.

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 2:39 AM, matti k <mattik@gwsit.com.au> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFOn Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 +0000
> Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>>>> Ok.  I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are
>>>> never official until there is a PGP-signed email sent.  The email
>>>> is intended for the general public of consumers of official
>>>> releases, not "yeah, but"s.
>>>>=20
>=20
>> That does not say that the freebsd-update bits will not change *until*
>> the official release announcement has been sent.
>>=20
>> In my past 15 years involved in the Project, I think we have been very
>> clear on that.
>>=20
>> A RELEASE IS NOT FINAL UNTIL THE PGP-SIGNED ANNOUNCEMENT IS SENT.
>>=20
>> I mean, c'mon, dude.
>>=20
>> We really, seriously, for all intents and purposes, cannot be any more
>> clear than that.
>>=20
>> So, yes, *IF* an update necessitates a new freebsd-update build, what
>> you are running is *NOT* official.
>>=20
>> For at least 15 years, we have all said the same entire thing.
>=20
> Here I have been tracking 14.0 release candidates
>=20
> Reminds me of when slashdot would announce a new release days before it
> was actually released and then someone would remind them of that
>=20
> I am using an Australian mirror so will probably need to wait an extra
> day to be on the safe side  :-)
>=20
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