Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:16:20 -0500 From: Mikhail Teterin <mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, henrik@gulbra.net, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com, freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org Subject: USB issues (not just Re: PR backlog) Message-ID: <200712271216.22436.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <20071227.085247.1723236220.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20071226180415.GA27409@soaustin.net> <200712271000.50995@aldan> <20071227.085247.1723236220.imp@bsdimp.com>
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=D1=87=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80 27 =D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D1=8C 2007 10:52 =D0=B4=D0=BE, M. Warner Losh =D0=92=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0= =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8: > Usually that's called a maintainer, but we haven't had a real one in a > long time. Or even a fake one. Well, you responded to me earlier suggesting, I take it upon myself to merg= e=20 USB-advancements from 7.x to 6.x. That implied, somebody did something for= =20 7.x, did not it? Can that body (whoever they are) not put on the vacant=20 USB-maintainer hat and push the fixes/improvements into 6.x (preferably --= =20 before the 6.3 is released unto the world)? If not that same person, then,= =20 maybe, the people, whom you mention below as "looking at Hans' new stack",= =20 can do the merging? > : There is talk about a "whole new" USB reimplementation, and somebody is > : working in the Perforce nirvana-land on it. Maybe, that work needs a > : closer look by other experts so as to bring it to the FreeBSD masses > : faster... > Now you are being insulting here. =C2=A0There are people looking at Hans' > new stack, and have identified a few issues with it. =C2=A0Hans' is worki= ng > on the issues identified, and even provides snapshots from time to > time for people to try. I sure hope, you were joking about the "insulting" part. I don't see anythi= ng=20 in my words, that's in any way disparaging or insulting. What troubles me,= =20 however, is that this new work is being done in that ivory tower called=20 "perforce". Nothing against that particular revision-control system, but th= e =20 =46reeBSD work "in perforce" in the past tended to take /years/ to be merge= d=20 into the project's official repository -- CVS. Probably, because the actual= =20 development is far more thrilling, than the mundane merging from on=20 repository to another... But if somebody is, indeed, working on a new USB stack, that's terrific new= s.=20 It also implies, we might get a USB-maintainer some time soon. I just want = it=20 soon/er/, because it has been far too long already... I am with FreeBSD since early ninetees (and don't need refreshers on how we= =20 are a volunteer project). But I can't remember another case of a subsystem= =20 being so broken for so long -- through so many releases. -mi
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