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Date:      Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:00:10 -0400
From:      Super Bisquit <superbisquit@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Erich <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote:
>> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote:
>> > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simpl=
e. Is it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simpl=
y ignored by the people who set the strategy for FreeBSD?
>> >
>> > I mention since yeares here that putting version numbers onto the port=
 tree would solve many of these problems. All I get as an answer is that it=
 is not possible.
>> >
>> > I think that this should be easily possible with the limitation that o=
lder versions do not have security fixes. Yes, but of what help is a securi=
ty fix if there is no running port for the fix?
>>
>> I feel like I'm missing something. =A0Why would you ever want to go back
>> to an old version of the ports tree? =A0You're ignoring tons of security
>> issues!
>>
>> And if a port build is broken then the maintainer needs to fix it, that
>> is the solution.
>>
>> I must be missing something else here, it just seems like the underlying
>> "need" for this is misguided (and dangerous from a security perspective)=
.
>
> yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports tree. =
Your client asks for something for Monday morning for which you need now a =
program which needs some kind of PNG but you did not install it.
>
> Do you have a machine that is fast enough to upgrade all your ports and s=
till finish what your client needs Monday morning?
>
> The ports tree is not broken as such. Only the installation gets broken i=
n some sense. Have a version number there would allow people to go back to =
the last known working ports tree, install the software - or whatever has t=
o be done - with a working system.
>
> Of course, the next step will be an upgrade. But only after the work whic=
h brings in the money is done.
>
> You do not face this problem on Windows. You can run a 10 year old 'kerne=
l' and still install modern software.
>
> Erich
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I am not currently using FreeBSD because I am transient, two laptops
and only one works, not able to set up a FreeBSD system- using Linux.



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