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Date:      Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: bin/17910: Do not allow 'operators' to drop to single user via shutdown
Message-ID:  <200004102130.OAA10527@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR bin/17910; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To: The AnarCat <beaupran@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: bin/17910: Do not allow 'operators' to drop to single user via shutdown
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:26:40 -0700

 On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:51:13PM -0400, The AnarCat wrote:
 > 
 > >Description:
 > 
 >         The shutdown(8) utility can be used to stop the system so that
 > it drops to single-user modem, by any user in the operator group. This
 > situation may not be desirable in the case of "public" workstations. 
 > 
 > For example, say you have some workstations of which the only access is
 > through the keyboard and monitor. You do not wish to have any user have
 > root access on these boxes. A user may shutdown(8) the machine, if he's
 > got the permissions (operator group membership in the default setup) but
 > should never have single-user access (this also implies that the console
 > is marked "secure" in /etc/ttys, of course).
 
 You already metioned the real solution.  Just remove secure from
 /etc/ttys.  In any case, it is delusional to think a machine you provide
 physical access to is secure.  Root is only a floppy disk (or, at most,
 a few case screws and a jumper) away.  Breaking shutdown won't really
 help since you can go to single user at the boot prompt.
 
 -- Brooks
 
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