Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:02:31 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> To: "Brad Knowles" <blk@skynet.be>, "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, "Rahul Siddharthan" <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: ORBS vs MAPS Message-ID: <NCBBLIEPOCNJOAEKBEAKIEDMJNAA.davids@webmaster.com> In-Reply-To: <v0422080bb59c7463b629@[195.238.1.121]>
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> At 1:40 AM -0700 2000/7/20, David Schwartz wrote: > > > So you are saying that if they are testing 'mail.foo.com', > > they don't try > > claiming that their mail is from 'foo@mail.foo.com'? If not, > > they wouldn't > > catch open relays that allow any mail with a local sender address. > No, that's clearly one of the things they do try, but I believe > that they use an envelope sender address something like > "orbs-tester@mail.foo.com", so as to give you an indication that this > is a test. > They aren't trying to hide their identity, and they aren't > forging the headers, because headers != envelope address. No law that I know of makes any such distinction. HR3113 is typical of anti-spam laws, and it states "... any domain name, header information, date or time stamp, originating electronic mail address, or other information identifying the initiator or the routing of such message ... is false or inaccurate. The are trying to trick your mail server into relaying for them. That's exactly the same thing the spammers do. They have no right to do so without permission. They specifically and deliberately provide incorrect information to obtain access to someone else's machine that they wouldn't otherwise have. The specific incorrect information they provide is the originator of a request for access or service. I think you'd find it hard to locate a country outside the third world where this is legal. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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