Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:35:57 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>, Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity Message-ID: <20230418123557.443cd189@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfpEP4SUGTE9LAOiEyEPaHps-b8a0v81yG-PK4skV37tPA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20210520180155.3e23500e@bsd64.grem.de> <20210520185917.GL14975@funkthat.com> <CAG6CVpWpDYid9F0fSWyyFVuh6SuNmV4HwEBQUKTCXDGfq6KwAw@mail.gmail.com> <YKe3coCxotoKBV0T@submonkey.net> <CANCZdfoJPB=-WMqH_Hd5ggGmY4GR2L7RJZpa_e9a2_ym5R4ZZA@mail.gmail.com> <20220619140624.21263e46@bsd64.grem.de> <CANCZdfpEP4SUGTE9LAOiEyEPaHps-b8a0v81yG-PK4skV37tPA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:55 -0600 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:06 AM Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600 > > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > > > > > No, I don’t think there’s any reason to default it > > > > > differently on stable > > > > vs > > > > > current. I think it’s useful (and I prefer the more verbose > > > > > form, which isn’t the default). > > > > > > > > I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, > > > > but I would say that it is much easier for someone who knows > > > > that there is a default to be changed to change it, than it is > > > > for someone who does not. Therefore, if the information is not > > > > useful to someone who does not know how to get rid of it, then > > > > it should default to not being displayed, IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to > > > the old behavior. > > > > > > INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging > > > kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems. > > > > > > > Did this ever happen? I just installed a fresh 13.1-RELEASE > > production system (non-INVARIANT kernel) and it seems like SIGINFO > > still outputs kernel stack information. > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D35576 for those who wish to weigh in. > > Warner > > Hi Warner, I just installed 13.2-RELEASE, seems like this was never MFCd (it is in main, but not in stable/13 or releng/13.2). TBH, I could've checked myself back then (it's so easy to forget to MFC). Cheers Michael p.s. Learned about it by hitting ctrl-t to check if freebsd-update on my slow test machine is actually alive :D -- Michael Gmelinhelp
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