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Date:      Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:11:28 -0400
From:      dennis@etinc.com (Dennis)
To:        Jason Thorpe <thorpej@nas.nasa.gov>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mitsumi CD-ROM 
Message-ID:  <199607162111.RAA22401@etinc.com>

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Jason Thorpe gets all heated up....

>On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:56:35 -0400 
> dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) wrote:
>
> > Yeah, when you're spending taxpayers dollars those high-end 'puters
> > are real nice! :-)
>
>For the record, I don't particularly appreciate this comment, especially 
>on a public mailing list.

Oh geez...it was a joke. What I was saying is that its easy to say expensive
stuff is better when its your employers money and not yours. If I hit a vein
I didn't mean to......

>
> > With every purchase, a good consumer makes a value judgement. Frankly
> > I get more utility out of 5 PCs than I do with 1 of whatever you
recommend...
> > particularly when its my money.
>
>...sort of hard to do when I haven't actually recommended anything here 
>on this list.  Actually, I did recommend the purchase of some PCs for our 
>Data Communcations Laboratory.  They're pretty high-end PCs, but that doesn't 
>mean they don't suck.  They were recommended mostly because they're 
>fairly cheap, and they run NetBSD really well.  (Don't try to convert me; 
>I have Sparcs and Alphas in the lab, as well :-)
>
>It's clear that I'm going to have to justify my comment... One of the big 
>reasons I think PCs suck is because there's so much hackish hardware for 
>them.  SCSI gear is _not_ that much more expensive, and the benefits of 
>using SCSI are far greater than the (small) additional cost.

The "small" additional cost represents about 40% additional cost
(if comparing IDE vs SCSI) at this point in time. Thats big bucks for joe
america.

> > IDE drives are just fine and darn convenient, considering all most people do
> > with them is load a distribution or pull something off an archive. And for
> > $65. a piece for a 6X drive they're practically disposable.
>
>I fail to see value in "disposable" hardware.  That's just wasteful.  In 
>the long-run, you end up spending _more_ than you did on just one piece 
>of good hardware.

Again, a joke, but i guess you just won't ever get it. Cheap and functional
sells
in the old USA, deal with it. The Ford Taurus isn't the number one vehicle in
the US because of its fine engineering......


Dennis




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